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Old 04-18-2010, 10:25 AM
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Default Sweet Caporal Observation/Reviving A Great Thread

I was reviewing this great thread,and noticed something I missed before,which is how the Sweet Caporal 350-460 ranks in scarcity.I found it very interesting how the scarcity level varies so much based on factories.Here is JimR's scarcity list from #16 through #33,just to use as the example of what I noticed:
16.)Cycle 460
17.)Piedmont 350-460 Factory 42
18.)Tolstoi
19.)Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 25
20.)EPDG
21.)American Beauty 350 Frame
22.)Sovereign 350 Apple Green- 350-460 series cards only (66 cards)
23.)Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 42
24.)Cycle 350
25.)Old Mill Southern
26.)Sovereign 150
27.)Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 649 Overprint
28.)Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 42 Scroll
29.)Old Mill
30.)Polar Bear
31.)Sovereign 350 Series Forest Green
32.)Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 25
33.)Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30

It was interesting for me to see that Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 25 was seated in between Tolstoi and EPDG,,,so I looked through my T206's,and was suprised to see that I only had one,which is Doyle batting!!

So,using the list above,it is interesting to see how the Sweet Caporal 350-460 ranks in scarcity by Factories.Here's the breakdown:
19.)Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 25
23.)Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 42
28.)Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 42 Scroll
33.)Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30

Does anyone know why this is?I guess I didn't realize the Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 25 was that tough,but I guess it is!!

Also,another obsevation-when Lee so kindly gave us his breakdown of backs after finishing T206 (I love these breakdowns!!),out of all the cards,only three EPDG's!!!Maybe that's going in too many different directions,but really-isn't EPDG scarcer than we may think?

Sincerely,Clayton
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:25 PM
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Default Factory #25 tougher T206's

AMERICAN BEAUTY, BROAD LEAF, CAROLINA BRIGHTS, CYCLE, DRUM, OLD MILL, PIEDMONT, SOVEREIGN,
SWEET CAPORAL are all Factory #25 (Richmond, VA) T-brands and the T206 cards associated with these
brands from 1909 to 1910 state this on their bottom line.

The American Tobacco Company was forced to divest by 1911; and, their AMERICAN BEAUTY, PIEDMONT,
and SWEET CAP cigarette production was transferred from Factory 25 to the Liggett & Myers Factory #42
in Durham, NC at the start of 1911. The BROAD LEAF 350 & 460,, CAROLINA BRIGHTS, CYCLE 460, DRUM,
SWEET CAPORAL 460 (Factory #25) T206's were printed in the Fall/Winter of 1910. They are much tougher
than the other backs simply because Factory 25 cigarette production of these brands ended and the cards
associated with these brands were either Short-Printed or discarded.

For the same reason, you will note that SWEET CAPORAL 460 (Factory #30) backs do not exist for the 55
cards in the 350/460 series. They were printed, but never issued. Instead a scroll was printed over the Fac-
tory 30 line and Factory 42 was added, since these cards were shipped to the NC plant to be inserted into
Sweet Caporal cigarette packs.


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Thanks TedZ,for explaining that-now I understand it,and your help is very much appreciated!!!

Sincerely,Clayton
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