Fake '33 Goudey Lou Gehrig card on eBay

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by iggyman

http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-LOU-GEH...mZ320518127669

Just in case anybody is thinking about it. The card referenced above is a "FAKE" '33 Goudey Gehrig. Hey, let's be careful out there!

Lovely Day...

Please educate the ignorant among us (me included) as to what you see visually that tips you off that the card is a fake. Thanks

[Clark7781]

Originally Posted by kcohen

Please educate the ignorant among us (me included) as to what you see visually that tips you off that the card is a fake. Thanks

Yes, I am very interested in getting some education on this aspect of our hobby. It makes for an informed buyer. Thanks in advance for your time in providing us with information.

[teetwoohsix]

Disclaimer-I don't know squat about how to tell if or how this is a fake*

I could also learn from a few tips on how to tell the difference in spotting a fake one of these.After I read the OP,I went to ebay and was looking at graded examples,and trying to see the difference between the one in the OP and the graded examples,and I am having a rough time.......the only difference I am seeing,is in the graded examples,I can see the top of the bat extending slightly above the top border(not in full color,just a hint,maybe of the yellow?).Other than that,I'm missing something I guess...........

Sincerely,Clayton

[FUBAR]

i thought i was the only one that couldn't figure it out. I always look at the ones guys point out as fakes and 75% of the time, i cannot tell....

I don't think i could buy a card with a value over 50$ that is unslabbed simply for the fact i wouldn't want to get ripped off.

[cfc1909]

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[iggyman]

In regards to the authenticity on the '33 Goudey Gehrig on eBay.....

1. First thing to look for is the bottom red border, it should not match up perfectly at the ends with the rest of border (this also applies to the infield dirt right above the bottom red border). Sometimes this is hard to see on a scan but this one fails miserably. On an authentic '33 Goudey card the bottom red box and infield dirt would not square-up.

2. Secondly, his bat should extend into the top upper white border (albeit faintly). This one does not extend into the white border.

3. Thirdly, the button at the top of his cap should not be missing. This one passes this step, sometimes on reprints the button is cropped.

4. Lastly, the borders around the card and his uniform should NOT be too white compared to the rest of the card. This one is a bit too white. That uniform should not be so white.

That is what I look for on the front of the card to determine authenticity. This one failed on 3 of the 4; thus, it's not authentic. Frank Ward is real good at spotting fakes and he has always been very generous with his knowledge. Most of what I've learned has been from his input.

Lovely Day...

[iggyman]

Jim posted a picture of a real Gehrig card. Notice how it passes all the tests of authenticity.

Lovely Day...