RE: T206 Backs Scarcity Lists

[FUBAR]

cant be completely accurate, it list the Ty Cobb back as a 1:1 multiplier, we all know that is not true!

[JerryTotino]

The Ty Cobb back is a 1:1 multiplier on that site because it assumes that you use the price of an actual Ty Cobb back card as a starting point. Thus, the price of a Ty Cobb back is the actual price of a Ty Cobb back times a multiplier for the grade of the card. The higher the grade the higher the grade multiplier.

Jerry

[Chicago206]

Im pretty sure that you guys are talking about price multipliers. Im talking about surviving pop multiplier. For example, a common player brown hindu in a PSA 1 might bring $200. A common player red hindu in the same grade might bring $800. So thats a price multiplier of 4x. Theres no way in the world that for every 4 brown hindus there exists a red hindu though. That might be closer to a 15-1 or 20-1 or higher figure. See my point?

[JP]

I think Brown Hindus are worth FAR less than your example ($200 for a common PSA 1???) and I think Red Hindus aren't quite as scarce in comparison. Either way, I've never heard of a population multiplier...

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by JP

I think Brown Hindus are worth FAR less than your example ($200 for a common PSA 1???) and I think Red Hindus aren't quite as scarce in comparison. Either way, I've never heard of a population multiplier...

Please define "FAR less". If by that you mean $100 or so, I'd like to buy 10 of them. Please PM me your mailing address so I can get a check out on Monday.

[wonkaticket]

I smell a Red Hindu in the BST soon.. (Kidding)

All of these cards have ballparks in prices, but in the end are only worth what someone is willing to sell them for or what someone is willing to pay.

On any given day that price changes to some degree. There really is no set price or market value for these things just a rough area of prices which go up and down based on supply and demand.

Also these price swings (up) are often driven by hype and someones need for a card. Example a Red Hindu Murphy to me is worth more because of my Murphy collection. But using that possible sale price as a line in the sand to set prices for any other Red Hindus is most likely not the norm.

Example JP will not see near the same cash for his Auth Plank as the previous Auth Plank from the last REA. For a number of factors.

John

[packs]

I don't think its outside the realm of possibility to get Brown Hindu commons for $100 or slightly over $100. You might have to pay $200 for a "nice" poor example. A Fred Clarke 10 just went for $177 last week, a George Brown 2 went for $260. A Bergen SGC 50 just went for $600.

[JP]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

Please define "FAR less". If by that you mean $100 or so, I'd like to buy 10 of them. Please PM me your mailing address so I can get a check out on Monday.

A common PSA 1 should be worth about $100, maybe a scratch more. A Hall of Famer PSA 1 might be $200 or a little less, but no way does a common 1 cost that much. I used to have 50 different Brown Hindus and am constantly watching their market value as it is one of my favorite backs. Sold half of them on B/S/T two years ago and then the other half on eBay and most of the buyers ended up being Net54ers. You may be gauging the price on the insane buy it nows, shilled auctions, or RARE commons that have sold for more recently.

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Example JP will not see near the same cash for his Auth Plank as the previous Auth Plank from the last REA. For a number of factors.

John

John,

Biggest example being that there wasn't an AUTH Plank in the previous REA....at least not that I can find.

I still think as a far better looking example, and being a rarer Sweet Cap 150, my Plank is going to exceed all recent AUTH sales...

[FUBAR]

my statement didnt have anything to do with population and the multiplier.

All i stated was i wish there was a rough back price list for a 40 grade common

ie: Piedmont 150 - Approx $50
Sweet Cap - Approx $52 or whatever the amounts would be

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by JP

John,

Biggest example being that there wasn't an AUTH Plank in the previous REA....at least not that I can find.

I still think as a far better looking example, and being a rarer Sweet Cap 150, my Plank is going to exceed all recent AUTH sales...

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2009/890.html

Sneeky those REA listings...

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2009/890.html

Sneeky those REA listings...

No fair. You had to go back all the way to 2009 to dig that one up.

[packs]

I don't think a Red Hindu common would run you $800 either. I remember not too long ago I had the opportunity to buy an Uzit 1 without any paper loss for $750. I would think a Red Hindu would be more in the $500 range.

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think a Red Hindu common would run you $800 either. I remember not too long ago I had the opportunity to buy an Uzit 1 without any paper loss for $750. I would think a Red Hindu would be more in the $500 range.

Best of luck in that search!!! I just bought one for $875, and it was a great deal compared to the $1250 asking price on another PSA 1 in a prominent dealer's inventory. You made a poor choice in not buying that Uzit by the way....a very poor choice!

[JP]

John,

Damn...there is a page two to the auction results. But yes, no AUTH will beat any card with the Gretzky designation.

I'd pay $500 MAX for a common PSA 1 Red Hindu. There are a lot out there...you just have to be patient.