What a Shame!!

[Chicago206]

I dont see the problem. People can spend their cash anyway they want. If they are buying the card on ebay thats stated as a reprint because they believe (want to believe) it might be the real deal, then hows that any different from the guy who blows $200/week on the lotto?

[T206DK]

I look at it as being similar to the old snake oil salesmen. these guys are hucksters at best. they only hope that unsuspecting collectors , newbies into the hobby, or desperate speculators will buy their crap. then they move on to the next or newets screen name to do it all over again. What about the people that really do inherit collections from their Granddad's or fathers ? It actually makes it harder for them to sell I bet. Seller RAWOYSTERMAN only needs a few people a week to buy his homemade printout cards, then he cam pay his bills and be fine. What irks me is months or years later his cards start being re-sold as real and authentic by the dupes that bought them in the first place. I have no sympathy for a person who spends hundreds or more on a card that he thinks just might be real. I just don't think Ebay should give the sheisters a platform from which to sell.

[T206Collector]

...and I will say it again...

People who spend $150 on a Honus Wagner reprint deserve to be parted from their money without the protection of ebay or anyone else.

Keep in mind that these people really think that they "outsmarted" everyone else because they found a "deal" on ebay that no one else was in tune to. I have absolutely no sympathy for such idiots -- precisely because they think that the rest of us were idiots for not bidding.

My only issue with these "genius" bidders is that they also vote in the same general elections that I vote in.

[lharri3600]

it's a problem when you care. well i care because the people that spend outrageous prices are not savvy collectors. chicago, would you spend 500 for a reprint doyle? answer, no! i'm thankful for the people who helped me as a newbie to the hobbie some years ago. their advice help me to stay away from fake cards. by the way, the seller got bad feedback from a buyer that did not read the description. sometimes it does help too read a little instead of just LOOKING at a picture. that's all folks!!

Originally Posted by Chicago206

I dont see the problem. People can spend their cash anyway they want. If they are buying the card on ebay thats stated as a reprint because they believe (want to believe) it might be the real deal, then hows that any different from the guy who blows $200/week on the lotto?

[Chicago206]

Larry, I dont like seeing people ripped off anymore than you do. But "T206Collector" has a very valid point. The people who are paying $50, $100, and more for this garbage are not doing so because they are naive to the hobby, but rather they are naive to life. You simply cannot protect stupid people from themselves.

I DO care about sellers who sell known counterfeits as genuine cards however. Theres a big difference there! But all the links you gave, the seller actually lists the card as a REPRINT. I have no sympathy for anyone who bids on them thinking they are anything other than that.

[lharri3600]

you are so right my friend. if it states reprint and they pay,then shame on them

[T206Collector]

...people who bid on T206 Honus Wagner cards on ebay, even though they do not state reprint on them anywhere and the seller is being really persuasive about finding the card in his attic, still deserve what they get when they think they were so fortunate to get an authentic Wagner for a couple hundred dollars.

In this context, where fraud is actually being perpetrated, I agree that ebay should be more vigilant. And that the seller is being a criminal. But the buyer is not a sympathetic figure to me.

[deadballera]

If it states REPRINT and someone is willing to buy it. But the buyer was warned.

The buyer maybe wants to a card to show off to their friends as the real thing without spending the dollars on the real piece of history.


Future of reprints ? real Tobacco stains or tobacco smells into the cards.
Scratch-N-Sniff ?