Not O/T - Does Marriage Counseling Work?

[Chicago206]

Everyone came to Jim's defense recently in another thread. Hard to truly believe all those complimets he got when it seems to me he is simply an antagonistic jerk. He has demonstrated this over the span of several threads and several days.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

Everyone came to Jim's defense recently in another thread. Hard to truly believe all those complimets he got when it seems to me he is simply an antagonistic jerk. He has demonstrated this over the span of several threads and several days.

A guy can multi-task, can't he?

I admit, I can be an antagonistic jerk at times. Especially when new people, who have a very short history on this board and a very thin knowledge base of it's content, come here and, through the very tone of their posts, manage to pick a fight with knowledgeable, highly-respected hobby veterans, in nearly every single thread.

Once I realize that I can no longer carry on a civil conversation with those people, I do resort to lower level tactics.

In this case, that was you. Buying 15, readily available cards, over a 3-4 month span, getting mad at how you're treated on a message board, and then selling most, isn't "Card Collecting." It's just fooling around with your money.

Many of the people on this board have been in this hobby for 30 or more years. Some have lots of cards. Some only have a few. Some have large budgets. Some have almost zero dollars to spend. But they almost all have a love of the history of the game and the history of the hobby. You can't get that by buying a few handfuls of cards in a couple of months.

But even if I take the approach that everyone has to start somewhere, I don't understand the tactic that leads you to start challenging the knowledge base that Ted Z, or Jim B, or 10 other guys you've had spats with, have accumulated over many years.

Most of us aren't here on this board to fight. We're here to talk cards. Not how much we spent on the cards. Not how much our house cost. Not how much we make. But cards.

Until you can do that, your time here will never be smooth.

Best of luck to you in whatever you do.

[Chicago206]

Jim, are you referring to the "fight" about the Cobb/Cobb? Since when does a difference of opinion constitute a fight? I stated my beliefs, and was basically called a "know nothing idiot" because of it. What other "fights" am I getting into in "every thread"? I fail to see your point. Perhaps you could help me to see something im just not seeing? Where am I fighting? I guess we have different working definitions of the term "fight".

I got my feet wet by buying the 15 different backs. The fact that I have NOT sold my Drum should be an obvious signal that I actually DO want to further my development in the hobby. The fact that I recently bought a red Hindu is more testament to this fact. So I jumped into a pool and found it to be a bit too cold? So what? I simply decided that since I enjoy rarity more than quantity, the 15 card set wasnt for me. Im thinking that just the top of the top as far as back variations may better suit me. Afterall, I've been at this for a little over 4 months now....adjustments are sure to be made. Did you figure out exactly what you liked by month 4 of your collecting career?

[Jim VB]

1. Since when does a difference of opinion constitute a fight?

Message boards, by nature have no tone, no sarcasm filter, no audio cues to what someone says. So, yes, a difference of opinion between a new guy and a 30 year veteran, come off as a fight.



2. What other "fights" am I getting into in "every thread"?

Anyone else who has had a disagreement with chicago in the last 2-3 months want to vote here with a "ME"?


3. So I jumped into a pool and found it to be a bit too cold? So what? I simply decided that since I enjoy rarity more than quantity, the 15 card set wasnt for me.

If 15 cards is "too cold" or too deep, you might have to listen to some of the guys (not me, mind you) that have a little more experience. I do NOT consider myself an expert on any set, in any area of card collecting and I wouldn't notice another 15 cards either way. (Pics below.) I'm just saying this board has some real experts here. Use them.



4. Did you figure out exactly what you liked by month 4 of your collecting career?


Certainly not. But I was 5 at the time and collecting 1960 Topps cards out of wax packs and cutting them off of sheets. By the time I was out of college and gainfully employeed, yeah, I had a handle on it.

[Chicago206]

"I'm just saying this board has some real experts here. Use them."

At least we can agree on this point. The knowlege here is ultra impressive! However, in order to "maximize" my returns in this forum, it seems that I better not voice any of my opinions, and just agree with anything they say. They seem to hate it when a new guy has thoughts of his own!

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

However, in order to "maximize" my returns in this forum, it seems that I better not voice any of my opinions, and just agree with anything they say. They seem to hate it when a new guy has thoughts of his own!

First, "maximize" your return, sounds like something you should be doing with a 401k, not with your spare time hobby. Although some of the dealers on the site may try to "maximize" their return, I bet Ted Z. and Jim B. have never once thought of it that way.

Second, no one is saying you can never voice an opinion. But, when your opinion is weighed against 30 years of experience, don't get defensive when others don't side with you.

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

First, "maximize" your return, sounds like something you should be doing with a 401k, not with your spare time hobby. Although some of the dealers on the site may try to "maximize" their return, I bet Ted Z. and Jim B. have never once thought of it that way.

Second, no one is saying you can never voice an opinion. But, when your opinion is weighed against 30 years of experience, don't get defensive when others don't side with you.

Perhaps I was too ambiguous, or perhaps it was just lost on you, but when I said "maximize my return", it meant the return of knowlege and enjoyment I can get from this place based on the investment of my time here. Had nothing to do with money whatsoever. Sorry for the confusion.