What We Have Learned About Ty Cobbs With a Ty Cobb Back

[Potomac Yank]

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[e107collector]

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every Ty Cobb with a Cobb back, the card seems to be out of focus. Every card I looked at, Cobb's eyes seem to be fuzzy, or maybe the registration is bad on each card?

Anyone else notice this?

Tony

[nam812]

Best thread ever.

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by e107collector

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every Ty Cobb with a Cobb back, the card seems to be out of focus. Every card I looked at, Cobb's eyes seem to be fuzzy, or maybe the registration is bad on each card?

Anyone else notice this?

Tony

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That's found on most non T206 cards.

[E93]

Originally Posted by e107collector

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every Ty Cobb with a Cobb back, the card seems to be out of focus. Every card I looked at, Cobb's eyes seem to be fuzzy, or maybe the registration is bad on each card?

Anyone else notice this?

Tony

This one is pretty sharp. I traded this to a board member a few years ago. By the way, there is no gloss on this one either.
JimB



Edited to add: This is the nicest example in the hobby.

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by E93

This one is pretty sharp. I traded this to a board member a few years ago. By the way, there is no gloss on this one either.
JimB



Edited to add: This is the nicest example in the hobby.

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[toppcat]

Despite the bickering, this is a excellent thread on a topic of interest to many of us here. It also seems that wherever you classify the Cobb/Cobb it may consist of a Type 1 (no gloss) and a Type 2 (glossy). It certainly seems like it is within the T206 orbit based upon the latest information summarized here and I appreciate Jon starting it and Ted, Rich,Jim and others continuing it.

I may be able to snag a Drum or Uzit back someday but the Cobb back will definitely mean my back run will be incomplete. That's okay - my set will be minus the big 4 when I am done too.

That ad is great-we get Atlanta (the Russellcollection) and North Carolina (the factory) tied together in it and have the San Francisco intrigue added. That almost (but not quite) screams "Obak Cobb" to me!

In all seriousness, how far west did the ATC market before we get into the Obak/California territory and the west coast tobacco companies?

Some thoughts on the ACC while we are at it:

When Burdick put together the T206 listing he was grouping similar cards that were marketed together as well, I have always thought, which (the marketing together) is a key point. He and the other collectors that developed the T206 checklist may have had access to some primary source information we don't know and how they grouped T206's may have been influenced by such accounts. While not necessarily sacrosanct, the logic that generally went into the T card listings always seemed well thought out to me. I realize there are some exceptions but the ACC brought order from chaos and some chaos still remains.

In any event, the ACC numbering is designed so sub groups and extensions can be added, which Buck Barker and cohorts did with relish in the 60's with the Catalog Updates. They even changed the ACC numbering to a year based system for Topps and a few other annual issues starting around 1968.

For T206 you could develop a subgroup of say -1 for each back of normally sized cards that was issued in a slide shell pack, -2 for the narrower AB's and say a -3 for Polar Bear (and maybe even the Cobb), packed with loose tobacco, which highlights slight differences but retains the overall grouping.

Now, what about those Type 1 Coupons......

[Sean]

Originally Posted by e107collector

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every Ty Cobb with a Cobb back, the card seems to be out of focus. Every card I looked at, Cobb's eyes seem to be fuzzy, or maybe the registration is bad on each card?

Anyone else notice this?

Tony

While reading this old thread I came across this observation. Is this generally true of Cobb back cards? I've looked at Ryan's card and it seems fuzzy, but that could be the scan? I know that the recently found "matchbox" Cobb back has this same poor registration. The red background seems to be shifted down slightly, causing the eyes to appear unfocused. Does anyone know if this is true of the cards in the Lucky 7 find? And does it seem to be true of all Cobb backs?

[CuriousGeorge]

I have one with no issues.

[ullmandds]

Since i last saw this thread...what have i learned??? That the cobb w /cobb back is still not a t206...and that it is likely more common than drum, uzit, lennox, ab 460, cycle 460, coupon type I,III, t214, blank back...among others!!

[ullmandds]

Beautiful steven L!

[CuriousGeorge]

Thanks!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Since i last saw this thread...what have i learned??? That the cobb w /cobb back is still not a t206...and that it is likely more common than drum, uzit, lennox, ab 460, cycle 460, coupon type I,III, t214, blank back...among others!!

.... and especially the Broadleaf 460.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Sean

.... and especially the Broadleaf 460.

Brain fart

[Sean]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

I have one with no issues.

Great card Steven. Does it feature the glossy finish?

[CuriousGeorge]

Yes it does.