Modern Gai authenticated autos...? slightly OT

[3and2]

I agree I have seen a lot of these things at shows too. It is disappointing to see all that fake stuff. For me, if I see those things in a dealers case, I simply won't do business w/ him. just move on and find those few people that are honest to the hobby and the collector.

[Vintagedegu]

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[yanksfan09]

While watching my Yanks lose tonight, I went ahead and reported those ones to ebay for what that's worth. I also reported a couple others. Here they are for your amusement.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I felt I should clarify, I don't know any of these sellers. I'm also not accusing any of these sellers of any wrong doing as they may be unaware these aren't authentic.... I felt I should make that clear. I'm merely trying to point out bad autos being cert'd by GAI

[3and2]

the Mantle/Dimaggio sold for $115. If it were for real it would get $500 - 750. What a shame, that person just threw that money down the toilet.

[RichardSimon]

And that seller of the Dimaggio-Mantle picture only gives the buyer a 7 day return policy. How does a buyer find out that the autograph is bogus in 7 days?
I have seen numerous Mantle-Dimaggio-Williams pictures on ebay with a COA from GAI. In my opinion I have rarely agreed with GAI on those pictures.
BTW - The autograph dealers I know and trust all give lifetime guarantees of authenticity and do NOT use or need any third party authenticators.
I am talking about Jim Stinson, Rich Albersheim, Ron Gordon, Bill Corcoran, Kevin Keating and for auction houses Lelands knows good autographs from bad (I think Lelands guarantee is 3 years).
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[drc]

At the beginning, Mike Gutierrez was head of authentication. During this time his name appears on the LOAs. They were also conservative, some said too conservative, in what they'd call authentic. So in the initial years, a GAI LOA was top notch.

[tinkereversandme]

I don't really understand what Global has done, or is doing. They have always had a revolving door of authenticators who the hobby is unaware of, nor have the experience and who knows at what phase did any one authenticator make a decision on? And they (as well as former authenticator Priddy) sit at shows and do nothing more than sit and observe JSA and PSA/DNA lines. If JSA and PSA/DNA get you the most for your dollar, why would you use anyone else...unless they fail it and want to get something in return. If Global fails it, well, then you can go to The Coach Crew, it seems. I went to a show a few months ago and one guy had a binder full of Mantle's with Global certs that weren't right. He wanted $100 a piece for them so something tells me he knew something as he wanted $300 for the ones authenticated by PSA/DNA.

Larry

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

And that seller of the Dimaggio-Mantle picture only gives the buyer a 7 day return policy. How does a buyer find out that the autograph is bogus in 7 days?
I have seen numerous Mantle-Dimaggio-Williams pictures on ebay with a COA from GAI. In my opinion I have rarely agreed with GAI on those pictures.
BTW - The autograph dealers I know and trust all give lifetime guarantees of authenticity and do NOT use or need any third party authenticators.
I am talking about Jim Stinson, Rich Albersheim, Ron Gordon, Bill Corcoran, Kevin Keating and for auction houses Lelands knows good autographs from bad (I think Lelands guarantee is 3 years).
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And you are one of the most respected other than JSA/PSA, they are only bigger than you and not necessarily better. That works to their disadvantage and they probably make more common mistakes, because its your a on the line. I'd like to see just 1 current Mantle photo with a GAI global that you would consider legitimate, because I have found 1 in 6 months, albeit I am only a "practicing collector". Thanks for chiming in Richard on this we appreciate it.

[yanksfan09]

Thanks to everyone who's chimed in so far. I wish something could be done about all this but I don't have any ideas.