Modern Gai authenticated autos...? slightly OT

[yanksfan09]

Yeah, I guess it's as worse or worse than I expected. I was thinking of reporting a couple of these GAI's to Ebay, but I doubt it would do anything. It sounds like either they're "in-bed " together or at least turning a serious blind eye. I wouldn't even know where to begin with reporting all these also.

Everytime I go to the Hofstra Shows on Long Island twice a year, it seems as though I'm seeing more GAI junk. Last time I saw some bad Mantle and DiMaggio STAT as well.

They also have had ACE at some recent shows ( I don't know anything about them, but I think I've heard they weren't any good as well) Please correct me if I'm wrong on that.

[3and2]

I agree I have seen a lot of these things at shows too. It is disappointing to see all that fake stuff. For me, if I see those things in a dealers case, I simply won't do business w/ him. just move on and find those few people that are honest to the hobby and the collector.

[Vintagedegu]

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[yanksfan09]

While watching my Yanks lose tonight, I went ahead and reported those ones to ebay for what that's worth. I also reported a couple others. Here they are for your amusement.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I felt I should clarify, I don't know any of these sellers. I'm also not accusing any of these sellers of any wrong doing as they may be unaware these aren't authentic.... I felt I should make that clear. I'm merely trying to point out bad autos being cert'd by GAI

[3and2]

the Mantle/Dimaggio sold for $115. If it were for real it would get $500 - 750. What a shame, that person just threw that money down the toilet.

[RichardSimon]

And that seller of the Dimaggio-Mantle picture only gives the buyer a 7 day return policy. How does a buyer find out that the autograph is bogus in 7 days?
I have seen numerous Mantle-Dimaggio-Williams pictures on ebay with a COA from GAI. In my opinion I have rarely agreed with GAI on those pictures.
BTW - The autograph dealers I know and trust all give lifetime guarantees of authenticity and do NOT use or need any third party authenticators.
I am talking about Jim Stinson, Rich Albersheim, Ron Gordon, Bill Corcoran, Kevin Keating and for auction houses Lelands knows good autographs from bad (I think Lelands guarantee is 3 years).
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[drc]

At the beginning, Mike Gutierrez was head of authentication. During this time his name appears on the LOAs. They were also conservative, some said too conservative, in what they'd call authentic. So in the initial years, a GAI LOA was top notch.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

And that seller of the Dimaggio-Mantle picture only gives the buyer a 7 day return policy. How does a buyer find out that the autograph is bogus in 7 days?
I have seen numerous Mantle-Dimaggio-Williams pictures on ebay with a COA from GAI. In my opinion I have rarely agreed with GAI on those pictures.
BTW - The autograph dealers I know and trust all give lifetime guarantees of authenticity and do NOT use or need any third party authenticators.
I am talking about Jim Stinson, Rich Albersheim, Ron Gordon, Bill Corcoran, Kevin Keating and for auction houses Lelands knows good autographs from bad (I think Lelands guarantee is 3 years).
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And you are one of the most respected other than JSA/PSA, they are only bigger than you and not necessarily better. That works to their disadvantage and they probably make more common mistakes, because its your a on the line. I'd like to see just 1 current Mantle photo with a GAI global that you would consider legitimate, because I have found 1 in 6 months, albeit I am only a "practicing collector". Thanks for chiming in Richard on this we appreciate it.