ALERT....huge, huge BB card collection theft....UPDATED

[ChiefBenderForever]

It had to be someone that knew the cards were there especially if nothing else was stolen. They will definitely be trying to sell,the question is where and when. A 40 year collection is a lifetimes work I hope the thieves get caught and card's returned. They also must have known he was gone for a few days and made the heist.

[jbbama]

Most common thieves would have no idea about baseball cards........the magnitude of what was taken is also alarming to me. It is an awful situation, i hope their is a better resolution.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by T206Collector......
" If the house was actually protected by an alarm that was disabled by thieves, then it is virtually certain that the victim knew the
thieves to some capacity and may very well be an inside job. "


T206Collector you better clarify what you are alluding to...."inside job" ?

Paul....I will give you the benefit of the doubt, that you didn't mean what these words of your's imply; but, I expect a explanation ! ?

And, spare us your lawyer diatribe.


Incidently, there was NO insurance coverage on this collection.


TED Z

[sportscardtheory]

That is WAY too much time and money to not have some kind of insurance. As some have said, common thieves normally don't know much about cards and would probably walk right by them. I'm speculating that this has to be someone he knows or associates with or a friend of a friend type situation. I would check in with all pawn shops, card shops and auction houses in the area. Get more details about the cards out there and post them here and on all the other big trading card forums. I would post this on FCB, PSA, Beckett, SCF, SGC and other forums. The more eyes you have looking for clues the better your chances of finding the culprit/culprits. I wish your friend luck in finding and prosecuting this/these scum.

[egbeachley]

Can some scans of the key cards be provided? There are enough details on each card to permanently identify them. Print marks, staining, rounded corners, chips, etc.

[t206wagner]

Not sure where in upstate the collection was taken from, but there is a card show coming up in Syracuse in the 18th. Perhaps you or your friend might want to contact the promoters of the show to get the word out. Here is their website.

http://www.cnypromotions.com

[bwiller]

Originally Posted by t206wagner

Not sure where in upstate the collection was taken from, but there is a card show coming up in Syracuse in the 18th. Perhaps you or your friend might want to contact the promoters of the show to get the word out. Here is their website.

http://www.cnypromotions.com

There is also a small show here in Buffalo on Sunday. I would be happy to hand out flyers to the dealers there if I could get some details/who to contact, etc. also. Unfortunately the term "upstate" seems to apply to any part of NY that is not NYC, so that is a wide area!
Bob

[bigtrain]

Burglars usually want to get in and out in a few minutes and will be after cash, jewelry, electronics. The authorities probably can tell whether the crooks targeted this collection or just stumbled upon it. If the collection was targeted, anyone who knew of it could be involved, friends, relatives, neighbors, dealers, collectors, repair men, meter readers, etc. Most crooks are not very smart. The cards may start showing up on ebay, craigslist, at shows, or antique shops. Thinking of where there are a number of small dealers in relative proximity, I would alert the Cooperstown Chamber of Commerce as well.

[T206Collector]

Definition of "Inside Job" from the on-line dictionary:

n. Slang
A crime perpetrated by, or with the help of, a person working for or trusted by the victim.

I was insinuating nothing more than the definition implies. Someone with knowledge of the collection, property and security system was likely involved if a genuine alarm system was disabled to advance the theft. While an inside job may include insurance fraud, I was of course not challenging the veracity of the victim.

Chicago are you down to now 1 pre-war card that you still own?

[T206Collector]

"And, spare us your lawyer diatribe?"

What the hell does that mean?

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Definition of "Inside Job" from the on-line dictionary:

n. Slang
A crime perpetrated by, or with the help of, a person working for or trusted by the victim.

I was insinuating nothing more than the definition implies. Someone with knowledge of the collection, property and security system was likely involved if a genuine alarm system was disabled to advance the theft. While an inside job may include insurance fraud, I was of course not challenging the veracity of the victim.

Chicago are you down to now 1 pre-war card that you still own?

Thanks for the clarification....as far as cards I own, is there a requirement that states you must own a pre war card to participate in this forum? I guess I missed that caveat.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

Thanks for the clarification....as far as cards I own, is there a requirement that states you must own a pre war card to participate in this forum? I guess I missed that caveat.

Just following up on your B/S/T thread where you stated "I have decided to part ways with both forums as well as with my collection," and note that only the Drum is left.

Just trying to figure out why you're still here. I mean, basically you said we're such a bunch of a$$holes that you decided to liquidate your collection and leave the forum. It would be TOTALLY INSANE for your to liquidate your collection for this reason and also stay on the forum.

[ethicsprof]

Ted,
i am so sorry to hear of this horrific situation.
as you can well see, your many friends are now ready to help in whatever ways we can.

all the best,
barry

[oriolesbb6]

Sorry to hear of this incident-I will alert the local Northern New Jersey estate auction houses as well as be on the lookout at our auction service in NW NJ......

[Brian Van Horn]

Ted,

I wish your friend the best. It's because of these type of events, I keep my cards in the bank.

[bigtrain]

I've never used a safe deposit box but must admit it makes sense. A check from the insurance company is some consolation but would not make up for the time and work it takes to put together such a collection. Sorry to hear that your friend was not insured,

[Kawika]

Sorry to hear about your loss.

Hope you the cards back soon.

Have the police fingerprinted the area where the cards
were? With a little bit of luck they can identify the
thieves.

It would not be bad if they were caught, and they got
in the wrong line of fire, or if you decided to use
their heads as a batting practice.

Here is hoping.....

[Exhibitman]

With all due respect to the people here who feel that alarm services are a joke, blanket advice to drop it or not bother is very, very bad advice. Alarm services actually have one very, very important use: they are mandatory for coverages in many insurance policies. If you insure your collection it is very likely that you are contractually required to have an active, centrally-monitored alarm at the location were the cards are stored (except if they are in a safe deposit box). If you do not comply with a policy condition your claim can be denied or greatly reduced. The same is true of certain homeowners policies. Before dropping service, I strongly recommend that you check your insurance to see if you are required to have a centrally monitored alarm system as a condition of coverage.