An eBay problem and call for advice from a quasi-neophyte

[JP]

But....i'm pretty sure you can leave negative feedback, contrary to the seller's claim. So threaten to leave negative feedback unless he is willing to admit that he deceived through omission. You can read more about this in a thread here titled "auction description".

[ibuysportsephemera]

Can you provide a link to the listing please. I think that you will get better advice if this is provided.

Jeff

[Robextend]

I just wanted to pose this question:

What is the reverse happened? The description was for a PSA 6-OC, but the picture was of a PSA 6. Then you get to the mailbox and it turns out to be a PSA 6-OC.

Is there any recourse for that?

I am not sure what could be done if anything, but I understand the gripe and I think the seller should be penalized for an incorrect title and description.

Rob

[quinnsryche]

Look before you leap. If the card pictured is the card you received, that's on you. He didn't mention the qualifier, but he sold and you bought a 6. If he has a stated no return policy (especially on graded cards) I think you will have to live and learn from this one. Don't be hasty in your purchases, better off asking questions, doing your research and losing the card than jumping the gun and making a mistake. Another one (whatever it is) will come along.

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

If he has a stated no return policy (especially on graded cards) I think you will have to live and learn from this one.

I agree with everything you said Tony, except the above shouldn't apply to every situation. In this case what was received was different from what was described. I have seen lots of listings with pictures that don't make any sense. I always do my research like you said to prevent any issues. But I still feel like the seller should assume some responsibility because he made a mistake as well.

[mintacular]

I would go the "raise some hell" route. The no return policy does not apply to SNAd claims. If he did not put the o/c in the title or description then he was lying by omission--this is NOT permissable. Get your refund, file a SNAD.

[Tcards-Please]

How is this any different than seeing a card graded BCCG 5? The seller states that it is a BCCG 5, provides a picture and you buy it. It arrives in your mailbox and you open it up and notice in print below the number that it says "Poor or Better". Now if the seller of the 6 (oc) didn't provide a picture, then that is a different story.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by T's please

How is this any different than seeing a card graded BCCG 5? The seller states that it is a BCCG 5, provides a picture and you buy it. It arrives in your mailbox and you open it up and notice in print below the number that it says "Poor or Better". Now if the seller of the 6 (oc) didn't provide a picture, then that is a different story.

In your example, the card is described and pictured accurately, however the buyer didn't know what he was buying. That falls back on the buyer.

In this situation (if I understand correctly), the card pictured did not match the description or title. That's where the SNAD (significantly not as described) claim comes in.

[nebboy]

Something very close happened to me on my last transaction on E-Bay.
Even know that the discription was not 100% correct (more like 75%) the buyer stated you will be recieving the card pictured. So I did give him only a 2 star feedback on discription and explained myself. I do take some of the blame for not slowing down and doing all my checks offs before buying.

Sorry to hear about your unhappy buy. We have hick-ups in our collecting past.

[H_T_Davis]

Thanks for all of the comments. Someone asked for the link, so now I have to expose myself as a naive credulous collector who buys cards both modern and cheap - the punishment never ends. Here is the address

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Of course, now that I know the end result, the ONLY thing I see when I open the listing is that (oc) in the picture, but since this is not a rare card and not in premium condition, I just didn't notice it - what can I say other than lesson learned. I decided I wanted a PSA-6 or 7 example and have bid on quite a few, just waiting until I get one that isn't bid too high (May's cards seem to be going for abut half of the price listed in the Beckett Graded Card Investor, which would put my target at around $100). To address another comment, the bids were not particularly low for this card - I doubt anyone else noticed the (oc) either.

On a side note, since someone mentioned BCCG, the seller tried to explain that I got a great deal, by say that "I've researched this card and you couldn't buy one for less even a lower grade (5) good-very good and all are either off center or they are faded and have poor corners."

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by T's please

How is this any different than seeing a card graded BCCG 5? The seller states that it is a BCCG 5, provides a picture and you buy it. It arrives in your mailbox and you open it up and notice in print below the number that it says "Poor or Better". Now if the seller of the 6 (oc) didn't provide a picture, then that is a different story.

I think the issue with BCCG's misleading grading structure is for a different thread. In this case there is a difference. The card was described as a PSA 6, not a PSA 6-OC...there obviously is a huge difference.

If someone is selling a BCCG 5, lists as such and provides a picture, it is up to the buyer to research what that means. The issue here is how the seller incorrectly listed his item and is apparently not at fault.