Absolutely deplorable actions by a fellow forum member!

[JP]

Originally Posted by PWeso81

I would not use "criminal" until $ is/was exchanged. It sounds like the seller asked for 2 weeks to deliver. The buyer agreed...so time will tell.

Sweet!!! So attempting to commit a crime is no longer a crime? At least that should solve our prison overpopulation problem...

Anybody want to buy one of the "It ain't fraud til you're caught!" t-shirts I'm having printed up?

[PWeso81]

I don't understand.

For some reason the buyer was OK with the 2 week lag. It doesn't take me 2 weeks to put a card into an envelope.

Not attacking...but red flags were thrown from the beginning of this deal.

As far as I am concerened...the seller has 2 weeks to produce. If that does not happpen...then we can continue with the (much desevered) bashing.

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by PWeso81

I don't understand.

For some reason the buyer was OK with the 2 week lag. It doesn't take me 2 weeks to put a card into an envelope.

Not attacking...but red flags were thrown from the beginning of this deal.

As far as I am concerened...the seller has 2 weeks to produce. If that does not happpen...then we can continue with the (much desevered) bashing.

Im absolutely fine with that 2 week lag, as long as Im guaranteed to get that card after those 2 weeks are up. For example, lets say the seller had a deal in place with another forum member who happened to be on vacation. The deal was for 2 cards for $2600, but the guy wanted just to keep one. Now he needs to find a financial backer to buy the other one. So he lists on the BST that he has it for sale. Now he says to me that it will be 2 weeks till HE gets the card. Im fine with that....its a done deal. But dont tell me im getting the card in 2 weeks when its in an auction! There is no way he can guarantee that i'll be getting that card! Have you ever wanted to win an auction lot, but were outbid? Yeah, me too.

[JP]

Any way you slice it, it was going to be a hell of a lot more than 2 weeks. Auction closes in almost 20 days, then the time to get the funds to Heritage, and then get the items delivered....definitely at least the beginning of May.

[PWeso81]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

Im absolutely fine with that 2 week lag, as long as Im guaranteed to get that card after those 2 weeks are up. For example, lets say the seller had a deal in place with another forum member who happened to be on vacation. The deal was for 2 cards for $2600, but the guy wanted just to keep one. Now he needs to find a financial backer to buy the other one. So he lists on the BST that he has it for sale. Now he says to me that it will be 2 weeks till HE gets the card. Im fine with that....its a done deal. But dont tell me im getting the card in 2 weeks when its in an auction! There is no way he can guarantee that i'll be getting that card! Have you ever wanted to win an auction lot, but were outbid? Yeah, me too.

Wow, you are really over thinking. I thought I was bad. Every time my wife pulls her car into the drive way I think...we could sell that for a nice Plank. I mean, after all...she is a school teacher and can take the school bus to work.

Anyway, It is obvious that you really want the card (ie...2 week waiting...$300 extra for insurance)...I can't argue your passion. I hope you get it.

[canjond]

I've dealt with Jamie in the past and had a good transaction. However, there is something that worries me about this, too - so feel I should speak up. I contacted Jamie last night (10:30pm) about the Uzit and asked for a scan. I received an email back almost immediately. The email I received stated as follows "top offer is 1300. Are you interested at 1400? If so I will send pic tomorrow." What worries me about this is if the card was already sold for $1300, what would have happened if I agreed to the transaction?

Again, my past dealings with Jamie have been good and I don't really want to be involved in a board fight (I'd rather stay out of it). However, I did not receive full disclosure that the cards was promised to someone else (however I did receive full disclosure that there was another buyer at $1300 so I could not fault Jamie there) and it sounds like the other potential buyer did not receive full disclosure (that his $1300 offer was the "floor.")

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by canjond

I've dealt with Jamie in the past and had a good transaction. However, there is something that worries me about this, too - so feel I should speak up. I contacted Jamie last night (10:30pm) about the Uzit and asked for a scan. I received an email back almost immediately. The email I received stated as follows "top offer is 1300. Are you interested at 1400? If so I will send pic tomorrow." What worries me about this is if the card was already sold for $1300, what would have happened if I agreed to the transaction?

Again, my past dealings with Jamie have been good and I don't really want to be involved in a board fight (I'd rather stay out of it). However, I did not receive full disclosure and it sounds like the other potential buyer did not receive full disclosure (that his $1300 offer was the "floor."

Jamie told me that I was "locked in" at $1300 and not to worry if he got an offer of $1400. Basically, the card was "sold" to me. This of course was BEFORE I had realized he was using me as leverage to bid on an auction lot!

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

Jamie told me that I was "locked in" at $1300 and not to worry if he got an offer of $1400.

Yes gecko, and somebody else was probably locked in at $1000 until your $1300 offer came along.

[Chicago206]

"If your pockets are really that deep, then why are you slumming by looking at $194K houses when the median home price in Chicago is $238K? "


Im not quite sure of your intent at embarassing me, perhaps Jamie is your buddy, but I digress. To answer your question, 4 years ago my wife and I had no kids, and we both enjoyed traveling as well as buying nice things (cars, gold/silver bullion, etc). The $194k house fit into our lifestyle very well at that time. It was a 2 bedroom ranch in a neighborhood full of city workers (im a Chicago firefighter). So it was safe, and large enough for us to be happy, yet the mortgage was small enough to allow us to do whatever we wanted to do...ie we wouldnt be "married to a mortgage". We ended up buying a bigger house not far from the one we wanted for $224k that was even nicer. The small difference in price didnt bother us, but in retrospect, its a good thing we didnt get the other one. My wife became pregnant with our son a few months after we closed on the home! We really appreciate the extra space now.