e97 B&W questions

[Abravefan11]

[Jacklitsch]

The Murray is a very nice card. I would value it at between $450 and $550.
The Mullin not so nice. Maybe a $150 to $200 card.

Your Murray is nicer than mine and I think I paid about $350 back in the day. Buy then I collect all three: the regular issue, the blank back and the black and white.

[rhettyeakley]

Removed post because it didn't really add anything to the thread.
-Rhett

[caramelcard]

These are obviously called E97, but we really don't know if they're a candy issue.

I would guess they weren't inserted into any product.

They're really fragile and I haven't seen them with any kind of candy stains.

I would guess a very small firm used them as some kind of premium or give away. I say very small firm cuz they cut corners on the paper stock and decided to go with no color which was probably a lot cheaper.

In fact, as Scott hinted at, perhaps there was an excess of cards that didn't have color or backs printed yet after Briggs decided to stop using them and whoever had the stock decided to sell them to a local store/company. That would make slightly more sense if the stock was the same thickness however.

Several of the images were also used for W555.

Rob

[Leon]

Everything Rob said, right above this post, I agree with . And of course what Scott said is true too. I would only add that I have actually seen quite a few with a water looking stain on them. Mine has it and many I have owned had it. It's like they got wet and dried, or something like that.I don't think they are candy stains.

A 40 is very high grade for this series. I don't think I have seen more than 3-4 above a 3-4 . . regards

[Bicem]

I think Pete Calderon's caramel website helped to over-hype them a bit.

"E97 Black & White Near Impossible - you don't buy it, I will."

[Jacklitsch]

As Rob stated here is the same Murray image on a W555: