T206 backs in scarcity order

[E93]

Thanks for your comments Ted. I did not see them before writing mine. By the way, I think the appearance of a second example without a glossy front raises interesting questions. From what I hear, the person who consigned one to Goodwin actually found two and is keeping the other. Do you know if the other also does not have a glossy front? If not, that would mean 20% of known examples do NOT have it.
JimB

[tedzan]

I am aware of the 15th Ty Cobb back, but Bill only had one at the show. I compared it closely with a couple of regular Red Cobb's.
The only discernable difference in the fronts was that the Ty Cobb back card had a richer color of red on its front.


TED Z

[cfc1909]

brown lenox examples

cobb-bat off-pretty sure there are 2 examples of this card
lajoie
lake
leach
merkle
jordan
willetts
burch
willis
latham
manning
overall

I think the ranking of 1 & 2 could go either way-I only know of about a dozen examples of each-one thing for sure is there are way less examples of brown old mill and brown lenox then there are of bl 460.

coupon 1 I have not followed long enough to make an accurate ranking but I am pretty sure it would be between 4 to 8-Uzit Drum difficulty maybe just a bit easier-red Hindu -Lenox black

cobb back is like brown old mill and brown lenox with around a dozen examples

[JerryTotino]

Jim,

I did some searching of auction results and also looked at some old net54 threads.

In addition to the Brown Lenox subjects you have already listed you can also add:

Pfeister (Chicago N. L.)
F. Smith (Chicago and Boston)
Cy Young
Chase

There is a good chance there are possibly other subjects and/or more examples of the same subjects already listed.

PS - Even though I agree that the Brown Old Mill is extremely rare I do not think that it should be listed as a standard issue back. Since all the confirmed copies are hand cut this points to this back as never having been officially issued.

Jerry

[cliftons8]

I'm sure these have been shown before, but can someone post a brown and black Lenox and Old Mill side by side to compare.


Also, on the lines of a Coupon Type 1. Would a trade for this and a Red Hindu be equal or would one have more monetary value. Assume both were the same grade of common card.

Thanks,
Mike

[cfc1909]

Brown Old Mill may not have been an issued back but it is on the back of very few t206s and is at the top of the list of most scarce.
There is no question on the top 3 backs and there is a good distance between 1-2 until number 3.
There are about a dozen brown Old Mill and brown Lenox each and there are around 40 Broad Leaf 460s.
Whether they were issued or not, they exist.


Also whoever wants to trade a Red Hindu for a Coupon 1-I have a Coupon 1 to trade you.
Coupon 1 is very tough and I will trade a Coupon 1 for a red Hindu or Lenox black.

[ChiefBenderForever]

If the Lajoie is part of the 33 Goudey set, shouldn't Ty Cobb back be included ? I consider it part of the backs set and it should be !