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Kevin,
That's a pretty good observation. I saw the card and thought it was a generous grade but you're right, that's a lot of space between the card and the black insert. Usually SGC is pretty good about keeping a snug fit between the card and insert.
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Not only does it look small, but it has paper loss and glue staining on the front. A 20 would be generous (despite a decent photo).
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I think the holder has been tampered with. SGC keeps the card tight in the holder. This one is floating around. Something stinks.
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King Kelly went on a diet.
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Is there a spin doctor in the house?
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Nah! This will be on page 3 by end of Sunday. If this were about a PSA card we would be at post 189 already.
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switched out?
Wouldnt you need 2 of the cards to do this? Wonder how nice his collection is? Besides the 2 raw T206's he has up right now (same background in pics), all the other stuff (hundreds of items) he has sold recently are raw '70's Topps. |
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he also has a Mathewson and Speaker T206, raw, for sale as well... although they look normal
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It's hard to tell from the photo,but that little spot of frosting wouldn't necesarily mean the case has been cracked open.I've submitted cards to SGC and had the slabs come back with around 6 to 7 frosted spots all around the edges of the slab.
As far as this card goes,I'll leave that one to the OJ experts-one thing is certain,it does fit very strange in the holder,with all that space......... ![]() Last edited by teetwoohsix; 03-21-2010 at 01:29 AM. |
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sgc slabs are very easy to tell once it's cracked and resealed. other than that i defer all matter n172s to jay (his freakin' id is oldjudge for god's sake). if he thinks it's not a 40, then it's not a 40...if he feels card is trimmed or short, then it's trimmed or short.
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It's scary that this thing has received a number of legitimate bids. That's certainly a case of folks buying the grade/holder instead of the card.
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Erich - so long as the card is authentic (and I haven't seen anyone suggest it wasn't) $350 for a N172 Kelly, even if trimmed or overgraded is not overpaying.
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