Could be getting scammed ??

[rhettyeakley]

Something isn't adding up here!

So you got a package in the mail that was supposed to have 2 graded cards in it and it arrived "empty" (I assume it would have been obvious that two slabbed cards weren't inside) but you then opened it? or is the huge rip on the side the way it arrived? If it is the latter you really owe the original seller an apolgy--threatening someone right off the bat is lame!

$2.50 is not what it would cost to send an empty bubble mailer with DC--so at some point there was something in that bubble mailer!

I would be REALLY pissed if I was the seller and you just posted my address on the internet for all to see!

-Rhett

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Something isn't adding up here!

So you got a package in the mail that was supposed to have 2 graded cards in it and it arrived "empty" (I assume it would have been obvious that two slabbed cards weren't inside) but you then opened it? or is the huge rip on the side the way it arrived? If it is the latter you really owe the original seller an apolgy--threatening someone right off the bat is lame!

$2.50 is not what it would cost to send an empty bubble mailer with DC--so at some point there was something in that bubble mailer!

I would be REALLY pissed if I was the seller and you just posted my address on the internet for all to see!

-Rhett

I completely agree with Rhett on this issue. The buyer is completely wrong in making threatening accusations without getting all the facts. Since this package was handled by a postal worker as indicated on the receipt (clerk 02), there obviously was something inside that package when it left. It is possible to manipulate an automated machine by adding weight to the outside of a package, then print the postage (machine doesn't know better). That is why I hardly ever use an automated machine at the post office unless I know who the buyer is.
Sorry that this played out here, but I don't think the seller did anything wrong.
r/
Frank

[scottglevy]

I can think of two instances where mail containing cards was not delivered to my dad or I. In one instance, the package was insured and noone was financially harmed (although I really wanted the card) -- that one was clearly an inside job.

The other instance is purely a mystery....a low value item just magically vanished. The seller made good on a small value purchase even though he swore that it was sent .... and that was the end of it.

Moral of the story....but buyer and seller could conceivably be telling the truth.

Best wishes for a clean resolution,
Scott

[smtjoy]

My two cents on Insurance-

Sometimes I just dont understand why anyone selling anything over say $50 just does not include insurance in the cost of an item they are selling, including both here and ebay. By spending that $3 you would have totally avoided this and many other thing that can go wrong when sending anything valuable in the mail. On ebay Insurance protects the seller and while it's the sellers choice on the bst man it sure makes sense.

So in this instance someone is going to be out $200, ouch. I am not knocking the seller looks like he did his part on this transaction but I just don't think it's smart to be selling and not take this into account.

[Chris-Counts]

I agree, Scott. I insure everything over $20 regardless whether the seller asks for it. It's just seems simpler that way and it doesn't cost that much ...

Originally Posted by smtjoy

My two cents on Insurance-

Sometimes I just dont understand why anyone selling anything over say $50 just does not include insurance in the cost of an item they are selling, including both here and ebay. By spending that $3 you would have totally avoided this and many other thing that can go wrong when sending anything valuable in the mail. On ebay Insurance protects the seller and while it's the sellers choice on the bst man it sure makes sense.

So in this instance someone is going to be out $200, ouch. I am not knocking the seller looks like he did his part on this transaction but I just don't think it's smart to be selling and not take this into account.

[Leon]

I have a different view of insurance. In my auction business I have CIA coverage on everything. It's just what ya' do in the business to have that "warm fuzzy". It's an easy decision.

On my personal trades and sales (as I cross my fingers) I rarely buy insurance. I always get DC or Sig Confirmation but that is it. So far, in 14'ish yrs I have 'eaten' one large item. It sucked and it was totally crazy on my part. I should have sent it overnight as is my policy and it would have been fine. I am a firm believer in DC or Sig Conf on everything though. Insurance is usually at the request of the other party and I am happy to oblige if they want to pay for it.

On our BST, if nothing at all is said, then both parties really have the onus of getting their part of the deal to the other party. So, if you send something and doesn't get to the other party, and no insurance was talked about, then it's on you. Just my opinion.

[egbeachley]

Overall, insurance is a waste of money.

But seriously, can we get a detail scan of the cards here so when they turn up, and they eventually will be sold to someone, there is proof that they are stolen and whoever is out the cash will get their cards back.

[timzcardz]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have a different view of insurance. In my auction business I have CIA coverage on everything. It's just what ya' do in the business to have that "warm fuzzy". It's an easy decision.

On my personal trades and sales (as I cross my fingers) I rarely buy insurance. I always get DC or Sig Confirmation but that is it. So far, in 14'ish yrs I have 'eaten' one large item. It sucked and it was totally crazy on my part. I should have sent it overnight as is my policy and it would have been fine. I am a firm believer in DC or Sig Conf on everything though. Insurance is usually at the request of the other party and I am happy to oblige if they want to pay for it.

On our BST, if nothing at all is said, then both parties really have the onus of getting their part of the deal to the other party. So, if you send something and doesn't get to the other party, and no insurance was talked about, then it's on you. Just my opinion.

Leon, Do you have separate CIA coverage on your personal collection as well?

If so, doesn't that cover your persoanl trades and sales?