Question for the E90-1 Experts

[cfc1909]

been watching this set for some time-thinking about making a run at it-have only seen low grade Upp examples -like to see a vg or vg-ex example.

after 206, i would like to go after something not so large but colorful-the Bell and a few others are really attractive from this set.

Craig-we seem to have very simular taste.

[tedzan]

Here is the Jerry Upp card in my E90 set. It is a difficult card, as are the other 20-29 cards issued in the Short-Printed last series
of the E90 set that were issued in 1910.

This card is crease-free and is probably one of the nicest Upp cards in the hobby. Why it got an "AUTHENTIC" grade is mystifying.
I acquired many, many cards from Frank Nagy (since 1980) and I never saw any of his cards having even a hint of being altered.

Note....I show my Tinker, and my CROFTS McGraw, for comparison. The Tinker card is also from Frank Nagy.





TED Z

[Matt]

Ted - hard to say from the scan, but the bottom edge might have been trimmed.

[tbob]

Upp was tough, McLean was very tough but Shean was next to impossible. Those were my experiences in putting the set together.
My tough 5 as far as toughness were:

1. Shean
2. McLean
3. Walsh
4. Upp
5. Speaker

[chaddurbin]

don't follow the set that closely...but i see an Upp 3-4 times year. a nice bvg 1.5 just sold for cheap i thoughtt. i never see a shean tho. don't see walsh or speaker in the wild alot, but is suspect it's because they're hof's (with the mystique of being tough cards) and when they do exchange hands it's from one collector to another where it stays for another 3-5 years instead of going to dealers/flippers.

[caramelcard]

I agree with Quan.

I see relatively more Upp cards than some of the other toughies.

Here's my Upp card.

[tedzan]

I looked at my old records dating back to the mid 1980's when I acquired my first E90-1 card....Mitchell (Cinci).
Here is the ranking of rarity according to my experience collecting these cards in completing a set of 120 cards.

1st Most difficult group......alphabetically listed

Clarke (Pitt)
Duffy
Graham (Bost-NL)
Mitchell (Cinci)
Shean
Speaker
Stahl
Sweeney (Bost-NL)
Walsh
CYoung (Clev)

2nd most difficult group......alphabetically listed

Bemis
Demmitt
Joss (pitching)......horiz.
Karger
Keeler (NY-NL)......horiz.
Lobert
McLean
Richie
Upp
Willis

3rd most difficult group......alphabetically listed

Bescher
Bransfield (pink)
B. Brown..............horiz.
Hartzell (bat)
Gibson (back view)
Hall.....................horiz.
Keeler (red)
Overall
Seigle..................horiz.
Tenney

This list of 30 cards is based on my anecdotal experience. And, these cards were all most likely included on the
last sheet, which was issued in the Spring of 1910.



TED Z

[Steve D]

On what level is the Wagner (Throwing)?

I haven't even seen one for sale in the last few years. I'm going after the HOFers, and still need the Wagner, Cobb, Joss (Throwing), Keeler (Red portrait), Speaker, Walsh and Young (Cleveland).

I've seen multiples of all of them except the Young (I've seen one) and Wagner.

I've also seen multiples of the Clarke (Pittsburgh) and Duffy. I've seen multiples of Mitchell, Sweeney, Upp, etc..... In fact, the only tough card I haven't seen for sale is the Wagner (Throwing).

Am I just blind, or is this particular Wagner really that tough?

Steve

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I looked at my old records dating back to the mid 1980's when I acquired my first E90-1 card....Mitchell (Cinci).
Here is the ranking of rarity according to my experience collecting these cards in completing a set of 120 cards.

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TED Z

Hi Ted,

What do you think of the scarcity of Biff Schlitzer?

This is a card that Lew Lipset listed as being tough in the '80s, but (back to the original post) the SGC set registry gives it the "weight" of the most common card.

I would appreciate your thoughts.

Regards,
Blair