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03-08-2010, 02:11 PM
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Barry
That's a tougher call; especially for REA than you realize. Unless REA develops a way for their consignors to move then $25-100 items they own, then the people who give REA may not have the same home for those items then they do for the expensive items. And if the person is friendly with a certain person at REA then they might be able to help them sell the items.
Perhaps REA needs a drop off point for their cheaper items. And didn't we once have this type of discussion with the same suggestion a while back. We need to have more places like John and Judy Burk's auction that can handle the $25-50 on up items to go with the expensive items. Regards Rich 
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03-08-2010, 02:14 PM
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Rich- that's a fair point but I don't know how Rob handles lesser valued items that don't fit into his yearly auction. Maybe he could answer that, but he doesn't have to.
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03-08-2010, 02:15 PM
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No Peter, that's not cool at all. That's a monumental conflict of interest. This is a smaller one.
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03-08-2010, 02:16 PM
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Other than a PR nightmare for REA this whole thing is very confusing.
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03-08-2010, 02:29 PM
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This has nothing to do with the current issue but......There was a time when a board member was taking another board member's price list of cards and selling from it....and he never owned the cards at all. That wasn't cool. Doesn't sound so unlike this issue.
This gentleman made a mistake, apologized and said he won't do it again. Can't we just leave it at that? It's not some kind of murder for hire scheme or Ponzi scheme where people are defrauded of their life savings. I am not condoning what happened but can't we ever just accept an apology and move on? Whoever hasn't made a mistake please take one step backward  .
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03-08-2010, 02:30 PM
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I am also confused, i do not know any of these people , just an outsider.
But if his boss says he isnt doing anything, then why is he so remorseful? Why does he have his tail between his legs? After initially reading the thread, i thought the guy had one id with tons of history, then created a new id to sell items and used his old id to bid on his items to shill the proxy bids up that other people had placed. His old id was dorment except for bidding on the new id's auctions. One of the big reasons i have left ebay is the amount of fraud that goes on. I have personally seen shills in this form, in bid retractions- then re-bidding an amount just less then you maximum, and also in "selling to the second highest bidder" because the schill won the auction, then the seller asks for your full proxy rather then what you would have actually won the auction for. I also got conned by Paypal scam as well on ebay where i sold an item, then the moment i confirmed i shipped the item, the buyer took his money back. Paypal gives the buyer protection, not the seller. I never sold anything on ebay again. I now only ever buy when i do not have to use paypal, and cant find the item locally.
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03-08-2010, 02:50 PM
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This has not changed my opinion of REA.
Rob has come on here and explained the situation and I am satisfied. I have no problem with Dean selling cards as long as he is open and honest that it is Dean from REA and that he sells cards he owns, or is given permission to sell by the card owner. He probably should have a handle like DEANFARAGI-REA or something similar. He should also adopt the rules REA follows if he wants to sell while working there. I think he is probably sorry because he loves working there and is truly embarassed and fearful for his job. Hopefully this was just one stupid mistake in an otherwise very above board and honest operation. Now if this is shown to be a pattern of course my opinion would change, but I hope that is not the case, nor do I expect to hear any of these goings on in the future.
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03-08-2010, 06:26 PM
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that may be the best one-liner in net54 history
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03-08-2010, 02:40 PM
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03-08-2010, 08:08 PM
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Now I'm NOT saying there is anything wrong with Rob or REA in any way; but, if your employees are acting badly when they are on their own, then what is to stop them from doing something while working for you. After all, you don't want to be monitoring their activities on a 24/7 basis. And you have to have trust in them. I don't know if I saw this, if I could in the future trust one of my employees that did that. My next thought would be, what if he does something like that to my business to mess up the works. Regards Rich
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03-08-2010, 08:26 PM
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Ummmm...We still have differing OPINIONS as to who smgsmg1968 is. Rob has privately explained (to at least 1 person) how this is not Dean and David has publicly stated, without telling us the basis for his conclusion, that it is Dean.
If it is Dean than Rich has made a valid point. You cannot possibly know where someone will draw the line and shill bidding, just ask Jeff Lichtman, is a major concern in the hobby. It wouldn't sit so comfortably with me if Rob was so quick to defend Dean if in fact it turns out both ebay ids are the same person. Sure the auctions were small potatoes but perception is everything.
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03-08-2010, 08:27 PM
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Could it be possible that Rob/REA has to believe Dean and Dean can't be fired because ??why?? Maybe there's stuff happening at REA that Dean knows about and could be exposed if he were fired?
You never know .. Dan
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03-09-2010, 12:10 PM
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