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Old 03-04-2010, 05:42 PM
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Default I'm the seller...

Most of you know me... and I'm the seller of the current Verisleeve cards on ebay.

Verisleeve is local to me and being run by Rob Butler. He's been a dealer for quite some time, quite a knowledgeable body when it comes to cards. He's given up life as a dealer, actually sold a hobby/card shop he had here in florida about a year ago and has been working on this startup.

I've known him for years and provided about 2000 cards for grading to help his venture get kicked off (and yes I paid for the services, he needed capital).

Its a saturated market and I wish him well, he might be a viable low cost alternative to the big guys for those on ebay looking to have lower value stuff graded for resale.

He's been engulfed with the startup, but I'm working to get him on here to introduce himself to everyone.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:07 PM
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Most of you know me... and I'm the seller of the current Verisleeve cards on ebay.

Verisleeve is local to me and being run by Rob Butler. He's been a dealer for quite some time, quite a knowledgeable body when it comes to cards. He's given up life as a dealer, actually sold a hobby/card shop he had here in florida about a year ago and has been working on this startup.

I've known him for years and provided about 2000 cards for grading to help his venture get kicked off (and yes I paid for the services, he needed capital).

Its a saturated market and I wish him well, he might be a viable low cost alternative to the big guys for those on ebay looking to have lower value stuff graded for resale.

He's been engulfed with the startup, but I'm working to get him on here to introduce himself to everyone.
I should say Verisleeve is very local to you. The mailing address on the Verisleeve website is your address.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:15 PM
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Yes thats correct, I've always used that address for my deliveries. My current EBAY and PAYPAL addresses are not that address anymore. There are many companies that use that location for their mailing address.

As Rob ventured into this startup, I've done everything I could to help, he's been someone I've known for many years. As I said, I wish him luck, the grading business is a VERY SATURATED market and its probably too late to enter the game.

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Old 03-04-2010, 06:32 PM
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Eric- the best way for your friend to succeed is to do a really good job. The market may be saturated with grading services, but there is always room for a better product.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:43 PM
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Barry - I agree with your comments... but late to the game is difficult for anyone thats up against companies that have already established themselves as SGC and PSA has. Look at how much trouble GAI has had trying to re-invent themselves over and over.

So many of you have posted over and over... buy the card, not the holder. If what I have doesn't interest you or you are bothered by the conflict of interest in me helping someone with a startup, don't bid on my auctions.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:48 PM
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Eric, a bit of friendly advice for your friend...

There are numerous grammatical errors, some questionable punctuation usage, and outright sentence fragments in the Verisleeve writeup on the website. Hiring someone to edit the site's content may make financial sense, as these mistakes take away a lot of the "professionalism".
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:03 AM
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Most of you know me... and I'm the seller of the current Verisleeve cards on ebay.

Verisleeve is local to me and being run by Rob Butler. He's been a dealer for quite some time, quite a knowledgeable body when it comes to cards. He's given up life as a dealer, actually sold a hobby/card shop he had here in florida about a year ago and has been working on this startup.

I've known him for years and provided about 2000 cards for grading to help his venture get kicked off (and yes I paid for the services, he needed capital).

Its a saturated market and I wish him well, he might be a viable low cost alternative to the big guys for those on ebay looking to have lower value stuff graded for resale.

He's been engulfed with the startup, but I'm working to get him on here to introduce himself to everyone.
So you're not the CEO of Verisleeve LLC? Because you're listed as such on the Florida Department of State Division of Corporations website.

http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet...s_filing_type=

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Old 04-04-2010, 02:42 AM
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I don't care who runs it or the politics beside it. If you grade the cards properly and build consumer confidence, we will use it.
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Old 04-04-2010, 05:03 AM
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So you're not the CEO of Verisleeve LLC? Because you're listed as such on the Florida Department of State Division of Corporations website.

http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet...s_filing_type=

Let the truth set you free. Best of luck with your new venture.

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Old 04-04-2010, 07:02 AM
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nice detective work Anthony ! Lying is no way to gain a customer base - maybe it just doesn't matter anymore though when it comes to card grading
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:35 AM
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Great work Anthony

He's not only a client, he's also the President. Honesty and integrity goes a long way especially when one is attempting to start a business.

Oh well, not that I was going to change TPG's or anything.
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Old 04-04-2010, 09:21 AM
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wow... what great detective work...

Did you also search out the addendum to the articles where this used to be Foodle LLC.? And then the filing where Foodle LLC. was recently sold to a Mr. Rob Butler and consequently the name changed from Foodle LLC. to Verisleeve LLC.?

Best of luck to everyone here, i'm not going to continue to post as its a waste of my time. Everyone here is looking to find fault or something wrong in just about every situation without the whole story or full research.
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Not so sure of the name cozmo, doesnt really flow... If you'd go with "Kramerica Kards", I'll send in a sub immediately.


Whatever happened to the restaurant, where the customers make their own pie?
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wow... what great detective work...

Did you also search out the addendum to the articles where this used to be Foodle LLC.? And then the filing where Foodle LLC. was recently sold to a Mr. Rob Butler and consequently the name changed from Foodle LLC. to Verisleeve LLC.?

Best of luck to everyone here, i'm not going to continue to post as its a waste of my time. Everyone here is looking to find fault or something wrong in just about every situation without the whole story or full research.

I think he was looking at the document that was signed/filed 5 days ago (3/29/10).

http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/73398602.pdf
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Most of you know me... and I'm the seller of the current Verisleeve cards on ebay.

Verisleeve is local to me and being run by Rob Butler. He's been a dealer for quite some time, quite a knowledgeable body when it comes to cards. He's given up life as a dealer, actually sold a hobby/card shop he had here in florida about a year ago and has been working on this startup.

I've known him for years and provided about 2000 cards for grading to help his venture get kicked off (and yes I paid for the services, he needed capital).

Its a saturated market and I wish him well, he might be a viable low cost alternative to the big guys for those on ebay looking to have lower value stuff graded for resale.

He's been engulfed with the startup, but I'm working to get him on here to introduce himself to everyone.
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