Looking for honest opinions on Legendary's T-206 Eddie Plank

[calvindog]

Sounds like a pretty good business plan to me. I wish I had thought of it first.

PS -- let us know what Joe O had to say about your plan.

[JP]

Will do....

EDIT: Posted an edit because I wished to know whether the 150 back with the 30 factory had been confirmed yet, but I see that it has many times, including the Harris Collection version.

[teetwoohsix]

I just wanted to say congrats-I hope to one day own a Plank T206 myself.I would also echo what frankb22 said-I think any alteration by a professional would render the card an "A"-authentic.Unless the graders were unaware of the restoration.But that's a high profile card,so I'm sure it would be reviewed under lots of scrutiny.
That being said-you are a lucky man!!!Congrats on the awesome pick-up!!!

Sincerely,Clayton

[JP]

Thanks Clayton, this is definitely a big moment for me. It has been many years since I've owned a Plank, and while my previous one had a grade, this one is the best looking by far.

Now re: the alteration and removal, wasn't there an altered Wagner that was restored to its original form sold on Mastro or one of the other big auctions recently?

[teetwoohsix]

Yeah,but I think even after they took the altered card,and restored it back to the original,it still came back graded "A"-authentic.

[JP]

You appear to be correct... http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_95.html. Are there any other examples? If I can't restore it back to anything than what it already is "Authentic" then I think I'll keep it in it's beautiful PSA 8 appearance. May be the best looking Plank there is....all siliconed up!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by JP

Now re: the alteration and removal, wasn't there an altered Wagner that was restored to its original form sold on Mastro or one of the other big auctions recently?

It was the card next to the one you won.

I think, but could be wrong, if all of the restoration was undone and not noticable, then it would/could get a grade. I think it would be a long shot. Of course some alterations probably can't be undone no matter what. Altered cards in correct holders have come a long way. If it were mine I would probably leave it alone. It's yours so do what makes you happy, have fun and enjoy it. Congrats.

[JP]

Leon, no the card next to the one I won was an ALTERED version....here

The one that we're referring to was a RESTORED one, in other words the alteration was completely undone. You can find that here with a video about the altering being undone here.

And the problem is, in the video Doug Allen even says that all of the restoration was completely reversed, and yet it still graded Authentic RESTORED instead of PSA 2 or whatever....


EDIT: Found that the listing says that all of the restoration couldn't be undone...the Wagner had some irreversible inpainting done....

[Leon]

Originally Posted by JP

Leon, no the card next to the one I won was an ALTERED version....here

Sorry about that. I got "altered" and "restored" mixed up. Flashback from Apocolypse Now hindered my thinking.

[drc]

As a strictly financial opinion, I think you got a good deal on the card. I would have expected the card in its current state to sell for more.

[JP]

Originally Posted by drc

As a strictly financial opinion, I think you got a good deal on the card. I would have expected the card in its current state to sell for more.

Thanks! So did I frankly and I expected this lot to close in the middle of the night, but maybe the negative stigma helped me get a great deal. I have complete faith in Legendary until I am shown otherwise, and maybe this card can be flipped on the near future for a nice profit, but I'll probably talk myself out of that!

Upon further reading of the current Wagner, still labeled "Altered" even though the restoration was undone....I find that the restoration may not have been completely reversible as the listing does say:

"Under close examination, this Wagner still shows vestiges of inpainting, particularly in the area of a single heavy crease that lies in the top-right quadrant of the illustration’s orange background."

I'm guess since they couldn't reverse the inpainting, it has to stay "authentic" instead of getting a grade, which means my Plank is likely to stay "Authentic" no matter what. If that's the case, he's going to stay the way he is.