T206 "Brown" Old Mill Southern League Back...Legit?

[JerryTotino]

I have owned 2 examples of a Brown Old Mill back and they are easily identified when you see them in person. They are not faded black as most collectors may think. All the examples I am aware of are hand cut. Thus, I believe these backs were never meant to be issued, but rather were a mistake and/or an experiment.

Jerry

[drdduet]

Agree with Jerry.

They are legit, just very rare. Most collectors who have not seen a legit brown Old Mill in person speculate at some point that maybe they are just faded black versions...as I did once upon a time. But once you see an authentic brown Old Mill and compare it to a faded black version there is no question. The problem is in finding an authentic brown one.

[Joshchisox08]

Are all the Browns graded Authentic ? I just won a Jack Bastian (FINALLY!) with an Old Mill Southern Back and obviously I want to believe it be the brown variation. Other than being poorly cut at the top of the card there's no tears missing paper or anything and it's still graded just Authentic. When I get the card in person I'll send you guys a pic so you can let me know what you think.

The difference between a $57 card or a $1,430 card haha. Either way I'm happy that I paid under it's value but would obviously like it to be the brown back, just not sure.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Are all the Browns graded Authentic ? I just won a Jack Bastian (FINALLY!) with an Old Mill Southern Back and obviously I want to believe it be the brown variation. Other than being poorly cut at the top of the card there's no tears missing paper or anything and it's still graded just Authentic. When I get the card in person I'll send you guys a pic so you can let me know what you think.

The difference between a $57 card or a $1,430 card haha. Either way I'm happy that I paid under it's value but would obviously like it to be the brown back, just not sure.

Good luck...but not likely its brown?

[JerryTotino]

Josh,

Yes all Brown Old Mills were hand cut.

If you post a scan when you have it that would be very helpful in confirming.

I have owned 3 examples over the years so I have a good idea of what it should look like.

Thanks,

Jerry

[Pat R]

Bastian was no print Hindu which would make it a no print with a Brown
Old Mill this one does have a brownish look to it like some other regular
southern Old Mills.

[JerryTotino]

Josh,

An example of a Brown Old Mill:

Sid_Smith_Brown_Old_Mill_back001.jpg

Jerry

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Are all the Browns graded Authentic ? I just won a Jack Bastian (FINALLY!) with an Old Mill Southern Back and obviously I want to believe it be the brown variation. Other than being poorly cut at the top of the card there's no tears missing paper or anything and it's still graded just Authentic. When I get the card in person I'll send you guys a pic so you can let me know what you think.

The difference between a $57 card or a $1,430 card haha. Either way I'm happy that I paid under it's value but would obviously like it to be the brown back, just not sure.

Josh, it's not $1,430 for a Brown OM. It's more like $10-15,000.