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Old 02-23-2010, 11:36 AM
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If T215-1 is a T206 issue then that Griffith, Washington because a very rare desirable T206 variation. It's not unheard of for one T206 brand to have a "monopoly" on a subject--just look at Polar Bear with O'hara and Demmitt.

Just to be certain--Red Cross was owned by ATC in 1910-1912, correct?

If that is so, there is still some kinks in the issue that need to be straightened out for me to consider T215-1 T206, like the series fracture of the superprints.

It would take a whole lot more convincing if it were suggested the T215 Pirate was T206--brand not owned by ATC.
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Old 02-23-2010, 02:38 PM
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Indeed, the Clark Griffith (batting) card in the T215-1 is identified with Washington. Therefore, this card was issued in
the 2nd series (Winter 1911 or Spring 1912).

Red Cross was part of the ATC monpoly in 1910. After ATC's divesture in May 1911, I'm not sure where Red Cross was
assigned to.
That reminds me, did you know that after May 1911, COUPON Tobacco was assigned to the Liggett & Myers Co.

Furthermore, you noted that Evers (of the 6 super-print fame) is not in the T215-1 set. Well, that is very strange since
it is in the T215 Pirate set. And, correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that both these 2 sets have identical subjects.


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Old 02-23-2010, 04:16 PM
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Ted,your final point is most interesting.
Darren, utilizing the criterion of subject inclusion and seeing that there is a series fracture of the superprints in T215-1 Red Cross with the missing Evers,
what then do you do with Ted's 'monkey wrench';viz, Evers presence in the Pirate set.
Does this effect your contention that subject inclusion should be a criterion
added to Ted's 4 criteria?
many thanks,

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Old 02-23-2010, 07:40 PM
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No it does not. Both the Standard Catalogue and SGC Registry checklist DO NOT have the exact same subjects for T215-1 Red Cross and T215 Pirate issue.

So, at this point I still hold to my fracture/fractionation theory in addition to Ted's criteria. I must say that T215 is on my short list though for further research into a unifying theory.
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