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Old 02-22-2010, 11:11 PM
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There is no way one can argue with the facts presented on the similarities & timeframes of which T213-1 coupons were made,and how they compare to T206 in regards to dates,artwork,distribution,etc.,etc.,.....

I also have a feeling if EPDG had another design or two or three and had used blue or red or purple ink to list the players name and team designation that Burdick would have felt EACH EPDG would then need to be grouped into its own catagory,therefore EPDG would've been EXCLUDED from the T206 set-I only use this as an example.We would have the same result that we now have with the T213-1's,T213-2's and T213-3's.You could use any singular tobacco brand in place of EPDG for this example-like Tolstoi.

That is the point I'm trying to make.It is not an error,it makes the most sense(in my opinion).If there were no 2nd and 3rd series Coupon,the type one Coupon would HAVE ALREADY BEEN a T206.

I would like to hear what the benefit of reclassifying the type 1 Coupon as a T206 would be?

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Old 02-23-2010, 09:51 AM
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Hi Clayton,

The benefit to classify T213-1 as T206? I think it would benefit the collecting world by classifying it more accurately. As a T206 collector it would make a difference on what I consider a complete back collection. As a New Orleans brand collector, it would cost me a whole lot more to continue to acquire T213-1's.

The true benefit is in the scholarly activity.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:54 AM
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On another note, I'm in total agreement with the Standard Catalogue of Baseball Cards where it states that Coupon types 1, 2, and 3 are each distinct issues.

Thanks Scot, As I read your latest edition of "Inside T206" I couldn't help but "see" where Coupon Type 1 fits snuggly into T206. Your work is truly outstanding.
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Old 02-23-2010, 10:26 AM
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Thanks for answering my question,I do appreciate that.

Everything you've said makes perfect sense.I do respect your opinion,as well as the facts.Looking forward to seeing where all of this goes.........

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Old 02-23-2010, 11:15 AM
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A summary of the 68 cards that make up Coupon Type 1

68 total cards

20 of them are SLers--Coupon type 1 contains all the Southern Association SLers of T206. 16 are from the 150/350 SLer group of T206 and 4 are from the 350-only SLer group.

6 of them are the T206 Superprints. Coupon type 1 contains all the T206 superprints.

42 remaining cards are all 350 only subjects of T206. I'm not sure why these 42 of the 208 350-only T206 series were designated for inclusion in Coupon Type 1, but I am actively pursuing clues.

It's understandable to have the Southern Association SLers included, certainly advisable to include the 6 superprints (the most popular players of the time), but why randomize 42 of 208 subjects? The answer may come with closer inspection of the included and excluded subjects as well as documented T206 brand patterns....
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Alright,here is a breakdown of the 21 teams represented in T213-1 with the amount of players represented for each team.......

1)Detroit-8
2)Cincinnati-7 (2 are Huggins)
3)Brooklyn-5
4)N.Y.Amer.-5 (2 are Chase)
5)N.Y.Nat'l-5 (2 are Meyers)
6)Montgomery-4
7)Nashville-4
8)Boston Nat'l-3
9)New Orleans-3
10)Phila.Amer.-3
11)Atlanta-2
12)Chicago Nat'l-2
13)Little Rock-2
14)Mobile-2
15)St.Louis Amer.-2
16)St.Louis Nat'l-2
17)Memphis-2
18)Washington-2
19)Birmingham-1
20)Cleveland-1
21)Pittsburg-1

So,it seems like Detroit & Cincinnati have the most players represented,and Birmingham,Cleveland,and Pittsburg have the least players represented.
Maybe this will help when trying to figure out the signifigance of players included and excluded.Note-The 5 teams with the most players represented do not represent the Southern League.

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Old 02-23-2010, 12:43 PM
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Detroit would make sense as they made it to the 1909 World Series. These little pieces of card board were put in the packages to sell cigarettes, so the more popular the team and subjects the more desire to buy another pack.

As a period Charlotte Observer reveals--it wasn't just smokers buying cigarettes, kids went crazy over them as well--kids would buy the packs for a nickel, remove the cards, then resell the cigarettes at half price--I'm paraphrasing.
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