What if..Burdick had classified T206's with respect to their individual 15 T-brands ?

[barrysloate]

There also probably wouldn't be the designation T206. You might have 15 different ACC numbers. It would change the complexion of the set.

[drdduet]

Had this been the method of the original classification I speculate that the tougher brands (Uzit, Drum, Lenox, etc.) would not have had such a large associated premium. While they probably would still go for high dollar, they wouldn't be $1000+ commons--I feel collectors would have paid less attention to them on the whole.

Within the "sets" themselves, series and factory #'s would have become much more important...and thus provided us with "new" hobby gems. For example a Sweet Caporal Master set would be born in which much more attention would be brought to Factory #25 an overprints, etc, etc, etc.

[tiger8mush]

How about:

T206-1 = 150 Series
T206-2 = 350 Series
T206-3 = 460 Series
T206-4 = 68 Series (Coupon)

Everyone else was throwing out options, so i figured I would too

[caramelcard]

We've discussed this idea many times on this board.

I really think that if Burdick thought about it, he decided against it because so many collectors at the time (and now) were collecting a player set.

If it were changed, we would still have to call the player set something.

Rob

[E93]

To a certain degree Burdwick's decision to consider it as one set accords with that of the issuer, ATC. After all, when they added new cards (fronts), they changed the backs to indicate that the set as a whole had grown. In fact, there are nowhere near 460 subjects in the "460 series", but that is close to the number of total subjects in the T206 set including those issued in the 150 and 350 series (I realize none of those numbers were perfectly accurate). So, perhaps Burdwick's intuition was correct in designating all cards with similar looking fronts issued between 1909-11 by the ATC via its tobacco brands to be "T206s". That seems to have been the thinking of the ATC, that it was one massive set of baseball subjects used to advertise the whole host of their tobacco brands of the period.

JimB

P.S. Similar questions could be asked about N172. In that case, one could make more compelling arguments for multiple different sets on a number of grounds.

[tedzan]

My understanding of the 150--350--460 series is that these numbers represented a "ballpark" number of cummulative Subjects.

That is......

1st Series.....150 Subjects......actually 156 cards

2nd Series.....350 Subjects......actually 208 cards.....(totals approx. 350)

3rd Series......460 Subjects......actually 109 cards.....(totals approx. 460)


TED Z

[E93]

Ted,
Thank you for the exact counts. I knew somebody would come through with those and had a suspicion it would be you.
JimB