T206 Coupon type 1 scarcity level?

Just to add if the Coupons were printed after the Cycle run and the plates had to be shipped to LA for printing and set up would this not put the Coupon cards out till the end of the T206 runs and maybe this explains the small issue of them.

[drdduet]

hi Andrew,

I don't follow. What are you trying to say?

Originally Posted by drdduet

hi Andrew,

I don't follow. What are you trying to say?

I don't know what I am trying to say I was just making a theory based on what I read from this thread. It kinda makes sense or is my theory to simple?

Toppcat
Also its hard to say those plates never left NYC when its printed on the backs of them that they were printed in LA. It is there in B&W. All the T206's have East Coast Factories but the Type 1's are made in LA. I am just saying.

Does the theory I posed make sense to anyone other than me? Its just a possibility.

[Brian-Chidester]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

I don't know what I am trying to say I was just making a theory based on what I read from this thread. It kinda makes sense or is my theory to simple?

Toppcat
Also its hard to say those plates never left NYC when its printed on the backs of them that they were printed in LA. It is there in B&W. All the T206's have East Coast Factories but the Type 1's are made in LA. I am just saying.

Does the theory I posed make sense to anyone other than me? Its just a possibility.

No, they DON'T say "printed in LA," they say "distr. in LA," meaning they were packaged in Coupon Cigarette packages and that brand was distributed in Louisianna.

[tedzan]

Andrew..........and, anyone else who thinks otherwise.

The American Lithographic Co. (ALC) was the America's "lithography king " firm in the late 19th & early 20th Century.
Jame Buchanan Duke of American Tobacco Co. (ATC) and ALC founder, Joseph Knapp, were very close friends and
businessmen. All sports, non-sports, and related ATC product's premiums were printed in this building in NYC.

This structure still exists in NYC at the corner of South Park Ave. & 20th Street. Nowadays, its 13 floors consist of
professional offices.



At ALC, all the ATC cards (and their cigarette packs) were printed from 1909 to 1919. Including the T205's you are fond
of. Yes, the T213, T214 and T215 cards were printed at ALC. Not in New Orleans....please dismiss that thought.

The COUPON Tobacco Co. in New Orleans (Factory #3) produced tobacco products. None of the various Factory's in the
ATC monopoly printed cards ! !

From ALC in NYC, the individual cards (and uncut sheets of cigarette packs) were shipped by rail to the various Factory's
in the ATC system.


TED Z

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by tedzan

From ALC in NYC, the individual cards (and uncut sheets of cigarette packs) were shipped by rail to the various Factory's
in the ATC system.


TED Z

Ted-why would the packs be uncut but the cards cut?

[iggyman]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEDWX:IT

Ebay items like the above link, is what makes that flea market so darn unique, and is something that "Grand Salami" will have to somehow emulate if they are to be truly successful. So I'm browsing eBay, going through the usual piles and piles of "Sanford and Sons" quasi reprints. When all of a sudden, I encounter a T206 Grossman with a Sovereign back. No big deal, but I look at the insides and........wait a minute......this auction is actually for a T213-1 Grossman, and the opening bid is only $49.99 bucks!!! No way! Holy heck! So I put in a snipe and hope for the best..............Alas, never the bride always the bridesmaid.

Lovely Day...

[drdduet]

Lucky I didn't see it!

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Just to add if the Coupons were printed after the Cycle run and the plates had to be shipped to LA for printing and set up would this not put the Coupon cards out till the end of the T206 runs and maybe this explains the small issue of them.

Those plates never left NYC...American Lithographic printed these cards.

[teetwoohsix]

Although I agree about all of the similarities between the T206 & the T213-1's,I am not for reclassifying the T213-1's as T206's.

Every point Ted Z made in post#31 is valid,but it only makes sense to designate T213-1's into the same family as T213-2's and T213-3's.The Coupons are their own family.

Barry,you made a great point-what if there were no T213-2's and T213-3's printed after the T213-1's?Well,then I'm sure this wouldn't be a discussion,because they FOR SURE would have fallen into the T206 family.But because there were a 2nd and 3rd series,it only makes sense to include the first series with the 2nd and 3rd.

There are many similarities between the T205's and the T202 Triple Folders if you excluded the middle panel of the T202.Why doesn't anyone argue that the T202 be labeled as a T205 series extension?

[barrysloate]

At the end of the day I'm perfectly content if Coupons remain classified as T-213. But I enjoy a good debate and this surely is a lively one.