Ebay Pennsylvania forger gets 33 months federal time YAY!!

[RichardSimon]

We can always hope, that forger and CC are in the same geographical area.
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[tinkereversandme]

That does seem like a lot of time for what he did. How does someone like this (or any forger or outlet) assume that they will get away with something like this forever? I guess I don't understand how these guys operate, and of course if this State is involved, I think like the masses about that other outfit in the same area. I guess they figured out how to play the game correctly, while this unfortunate slob will have a lot of time to think about what he did in the pokey.

Cheers,
Larry

[RichardSimon]

If the Roaches do go down, we can only hope they face the same judge that this schmuck faced.

[GrayGhost]

This is good news indeed. The Roache's Corner has to read this. Its really scary tho, so much fake crap, from Roaches and all over ebag. I'm no autograph expert, but I at least usually know when something at the least looks bad.

You always wonder if someday the autograph collecting part of the Sports business or any other (Celebrity autos, political, etc) will ultimately really go down the tubes. There is no real way to absolutely know, unless you stand in front of the person, but so much is being placed in blind faith and authentication. Its scary.

[Ladder7]

Was it worth it?.. Im thinkin not.

[Jim VB]

There are three parts to a successful CCA sale. CCA itself, the authenticater, and the actual forger.

Coach's Corner has done the best job they can of insulating themselves from legal action.

They sell merchandise authenticated by a third party.

That third party has been adamant about the fact that his, and everyone else's authentication, is only an opinion. We know they are fakes, but he's selling an opinion, not an actual item. There is no regulating body that says his opinion is any good. We know it isn't.

So it seems to this non-lawyer, that in order to nail Coch's Cprner you would have to catch them red-handed, doing the actual signing, or paying the forger outright to do it.

The guy you have to start with is the forger. He's the only one that can flip on the other two parts. Those two have built deniability into their business plan.

[timzcardz]

Smith's tearful plea came on the heels of dramatic testimony by his wife, Beverly, and eldest daughter, Kristen, who said that Smith was the "rock" of their lives.

Maybe the judge took this into consideration and put him away long enough to enable them to get a clue. If this guy was their "rock" they could use some time without him.

I noticed that he thought he was smart enough by using his ebay account to buy the unsigned books and his wife's account to sell them once "signed". Want to bet that he figured if something happend that she would be the one taking the fall?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

There are three parts to a successful CCA sale. CCA itself, the authenticater, and the actual forger.

Coach's Corner has done the best job they can of insulating themselves from legal action.

They sell merchandise authenticated by a third party.

That third party has been adamant about the fact that his, and everyone else's authentication, is only an opinion. We know they are fakes, but he's selling an opinion, not an actual item. There is no regulating body that says his opinion is any good. We know it isn't.

So it seems to this non-lawyer, that in order to nail Coch's Cprner you would have to catch them red-handed, doing the actual signing, or paying the forger outright to do it.

The guy you have to start with is the forger. He's the only one that can flip on the other two parts. Those two have built deniability into their business plan.

The forgers are the key. An anonymous e mail, that was in circulation in the past, named four people as the suppliers of CC. I have no evidence of the truth of the e mail, so I won't repeat the names, but three of the four names did not surprise me at all.