E90-1 "shaded" back variations?

[pkaufman]

Bob, I've seen what you are describing on many different E90-1's over the years. My own opinion is that the effect is due to either over inking or wearing down of the printing plates. Regards, Paul

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by pkaufman

Bob, I've seen what you are describing on many different E90-1's over the years. My own opinion is that the effect is due to either over inking or wearing down of the printing plates. Regards, Paul

then it would occur in any card, randomly, with equal probability....

when you only find it on specific player cards, it is not random...

true, a different printing plate was used, signifying a separate print run...

[ScottFandango]

wow , just realized Bob posted this yesterday morning.....

crickets..................

[Steve D]

I just looked at all of mine (25 different), and they are all unshaded.


Steve

[Bob Lemke]

I think to confirm their status as true variations, we need to see more than one "shaded" example for one or more of those that are now known.

I know that would be easier with a more commonly encountered set, but surely there are enough E90-1s out there to confirm or disprove this theory.

[caramelcard]

Bob,

I'll try to check my cards when I get home this evening.

Rob

[tbob]

Bob- For what it is worth, I went through my entire E90-1 set today and didn't find a single gray shaded back. These cards were purchased card by card on ebay about 10 years from many, many different sellers.
tbob

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by Bob Lemke

I think to confirm their status as true variations, we need to see more than one "shaded" example for one or more of those that are now known.

I know that would be easier with a more commonly encountered set, but surely there are enough E90-1s out there to confirm or disprove this theory.

Ok Bob, i have obtained mutliple examples of the same card with shading on the back...

challenge to the board: if its a random printing error than surely someone would have a shaded version OF A COMMON CARD FROM THIS SET...

Please , anyone, show me a common card with shading, because in 4 years of searching, i cant find a common with shading.....interesting no?

[ScottFandango]

i now drink decaf!

i still love this topic though!

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by pkaufman

Bob, I've seen what you are describing on many different E90-1's over the years. My own opinion is that the effect is due to either over inking or wearing down of the printing plates. Regards, Paul

I'm with Paul on this one. I sold my set months ago, and put it together piece by piece just as TBob did and probably had a dozen or so with the shaded area as mentioned.
It always looked like loss of ink to me more than a variation.

[ScottFandango]

look at the baseball in the middle...no ink loss there, and it is clearly different from the normal.....notice how that SHADED areas are always INSIDE the lines and NEVER cross over the lines (which would be indicative of a printing "error" or smudging)

[ScottFandango]

any luck looking at those E90-1 Backs?

[Matt]

Scott - what player is that? It will help with Bob's survey. Also, that's a bit different then what Bob showed above , with several letters bieng partially or completely filled in.

[ScottFandango]

Cant say who that is...yet

true, some of the "B's" are shaded in also...that is less noticeable though...

the baseball shows it the best

[ScottFandango]

more scans please

[brianp-beme]

Will check what I have and get back tomorrow.

Brian

[ullmandds]

I don't know how "big of a deal" this appears...I am an advanced type collector with a bunch of e90-1's...but don't see this as anything groundbreaking. Certainly not as groundbreaking as the ultra rare e94 single/double quotation variation on its backside?

[bijoem]

I would like to see one up close.... but my first guess is that this is nothing more than a print defect and not a purposeful variation.

[ScottFandango]

Joe, wouldnt a Print defect be random? meaning it could happen to ANY card in the set?

how about this.....for a specific print run of the E90-1 series (which we know there are several), they used an older (or different) printing plate to make the reverse...the resulting cards ALL looked a bit different than the first few series backs...is this a print defect? dont think so


Peter, do you have any of these backs?