its not the auction houses fault its the bidders

[sflayank]

i very rarely consign anything
im a collector once in awhile ill have an upgrade of something then ill consign my doubles

[Mr. Mitt]

Originally Posted by sflayank

i very rarely consign anything
im a collector once in awhile ill have an upgrade of something then ill consign my doubles

Just to play devil's advocate, you could bid up items you've consigned via one or two of your three accounts with the auction house. Not saying you do so, but if opening three accounts with the same house is that easy, I'm sure others have found a way to circumvent the system for their own benefit. Isn't this just as bad as the auction house shill?

[barrysloate]

Doesn't the auction house have a responsibility to make sure bidders don't open multiple accounts? I would not have allowed that. Often bidders registered twice because they either forgot they were registered or thought they had to do so for each auction. In that case, I would accept the most recent one and delete the older one. Only one account per bidder was permitted.

[benjulmag]

I think Barry hit the nail on the head -- the most important thing is the integrity of the auction house. Without it, there will always be the significant risk of bidding irregularities.

[sflayank]

the 2 extra accounts are in friends names in other parts of the country altogether...I cant see other peoples max bids so how can i shill my own items without risking buying them back...i would have to be willing to lose money on the sellers premium and the buyers premium...the other accounts are to protect myself from auction houses knowing who is bidding so they cant jack me up...ill even bid on the 1st day on 50 lots, knowing i wont win them at minimums, just so they dont know which ones i really want...the reason i started this thread is to show that you can control your bids without fear of being shilled just by being a smart bidder...its the bidder who provides the auction house with the ability to shill....they should be prosecuted for shill bidding....but if the bidders would stop giving them the opportunity...bidders could probably stop 90% or more...