its not the auction houses fault its the bidders

[Jim VB]

Did you have the same agreement with Mastro, or were they able to view the bids?


And, would you be able to tell us if that's how it works with each and every one of your auction house clients?

[Mr. Mitt]

Thanks Bob... I'm not here to start a pissing match, but I bid the way I do, incrementally without using the "max bid" feature, because if viewing maximum bids must be disabled, then there is a way of enabling it. I'm not saying you or your clients misuse this feature, but I feel more comfortable with straight bids. Just a personal preference that I'm entitled to.

[barrysloate]

Hi Bob- hope you are well. For the record, Bob did my software too during my last few years of doing auctions. But he did not do Mastro's software, that was a different company.

In my case I did have access to max bids, but I never considered it an issue, since I never fooled around with them.

[oriolesbb6]

I guess anything can happen at anytime with an auction, It comes back to using your own judgment and only paying what You deem to be the price. I work with various auction houses on the local level-antiques/estates, etc. Each house has there own policies-where to open an item, reserve/no reserve, dealers prohibited from bidding on their own items, etc. I have seen shill bidding take place(I don't buy there) and I have not seen it. Is there an ultimate solution? The only one is to bid what you are comfortable, if you are not sure of a company then don't bid.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Did you have the same agreement with Mastro, or were they able to view the bids?


And, would you be able to tell us if that's how it works with each and every one of your auction house clients?

Jeff,

In defense of Bob, I asked a question about 4 minutes after his post and he hasn't responded yet. You'll have to wait.

Bob has a history of coming on the board briefly. Defending one of his paying customers and then disappearing again for long periods of time.

[Jim VB]

And while we're at it, while I understand the point the original poster was trying to make, the title of this thread is ridiculous. That's like saying "It's not poor Jeffrey Dahmer's fault! It's those 17 stupid people who allowed themselves to be killed and eaten."

[ElCabron]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

And while we're at it, while I understand the point the original poster was trying to make, the title of this thread is ridiculous. That's like saying "It's not poor Jeffrey Dahmer's fault! It's those 17 stupid people who allowed themselves to be killed and eaten."

This explains why my "Blame the children, not the pedophiles" bumper stickers haven't been selling. Another failed business venture.

Maybe I should get into the auction business. I hear it's pretty lucrative if you do it right.

-Ryan

[JP]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

And while we're at it, while I understand the point the original poster was trying to make, the title of this thread is ridiculous. That's like saying "It's not poor Jeffrey Dahmer's fault! It's those 17 stupid people who allowed themselves to be killed and eaten."

That and the lack of punctuation makes it look like an e.e. cummings' poem or a line from "Flowers for Algernon."

[ScottFandango]

just curious, is this your first auction with Legendary? have they used you before, or are you a recent attempt by them to gain back trust?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

And while we're at it, while I understand the point the original poster was trying to make, the title of this thread is ridiculous. That's like saying "It's not poor Jeffrey Dahmer's fault! It's those 17 stupid people who allowed themselves to be killed and eaten."

Jeffrey Dahmer did not kill ME or anyone I know. Therefore I have no problem with him.

[calvindog]

Plus it wasn't like he targeted me in particular. He caught and boiled anyone who wandered by.

[Wymers Auction]

In fairness to Bob Freedman, he only provides the vehicle or software. The auctioneer makes the choice to be honest or misuse bidder's trust. A dishonest auctioneer could pay someone to create whatever code he wants.