February Roach's Corner auction is LIVE now

[GrayGhost]

Again, in the spring, if anyone wants to ride down and storm the offices, I'll take a four/five hour car ride. This crap has to stop and people need to smarten up and NOT BUY THIS CRAP from them. Plus, you have the people who KNOW the stuff is garbage and turn around and sell it on ebay. Its getting out of hand, WAY OUT OF HAND.

[keithsky]

My theory is people that buy the stuff on Roachs maybe get the item authenticated by one of the bigger guys it then flunks. They try and put it on Ebay and it flunks so the only thing to do is auction it off back to Roachs because they will sell it since it started there and seller knows one else will sell it cause it isn't any good. So round and round the same item gets bought and sold and relisted on Roachs. How many times has it looked like the same item was on there before. Just my opinion.

[RichardSimon]

The wheels of justice turn exceedingly slow, but they do turn.
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[RichardSimon]

It is as important to get the enablers (their consignors) as well. And I would bet if/when CC is brought down, the consignors will be given up in a heartbeat.
According to an e mail that was in circulation some time ago, there are four regular suppliers to CC. I don't know if the e mail was correct, but I bet if CC gets busted, we will find out quick enough.
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[danc]

I was sent this yesterday, a seller who has a ton of STAT Authenticated items, probably originating from CC.

http://www.legendsautographsandcollectibles.com/

But I bet the theory is also correct that the stuff is constantly getting rejected by PSA/DNA and JSA and that's why they implemented a policy that if it's authenticated by Morales or STAT that no returns are allowed. Then what?

Complain enough to where they take it back and then they own the piece after paying their fine consignor and they then throw it back up again?

DanC

[keithsky]

Not sure how many employees work at C.C but if they don't get busted maybe there will be a whistle blower that will feel guilty about everything. One could hope.

[Scott Garner]

BTW- Both of the Walter Johnson sigs in the current auction that are authenticated by Morales look horrible too. Not even close! The "J" in Johnson is the huge giveaway...;

[Vintagedegu]

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[GrayGhost]

http://www.aasportscollectibles.com/

They prob supply or buy from Roach's. Look at the Vintage signed stuff. its HORRIFIC.

At some point, these guys will fall. somehow.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by danc

I was sent this yesterday, a seller who has a ton of STAT Authenticated items, probably originating from CC.

http://www.legendsautographsandcollectibles.com/

But I bet the theory is also correct that the stuff is constantly getting rejected by PSA/DNA and JSA and that's why they implemented a policy that if it's authenticated by Morales or STAT that no returns are allowed. Then what?

Complain enough to where they take it back and then they own the piece after paying their fine consignor and they then throw it back up again?

DanC

Nice site. Froze my computer and crashed my browser.

Guess it's a sign.

[prestigecollectibles]

I specialize in Japanese baseball items and saw this horrible Sadaharu Oh baseball. Not only is the ball completely fake they didn't even write his correct home run total of 868. They should be in prison.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=198544

[keithsky]

Wait till C.C next auction and count how many Drew Brees autographs there will be that won't be real

[tinkereversandme]

Or all the 2009 Yankees stuff that they have been able to get, unload (at nothing prices) and then obtain more. I guess their chasers elude the Steiner brand.

http://www.myccsa.com/lot/203/2009-n...ng-helmet.aspx

They have three complete signed jerseys and they get like $1000 a piece for them.

And we concentrate on sports, how are they able to get all these guitars signed by McCartney/Starr (2 of them), McCartney alone (2 of them), Rolling Stones (3 of them), Bruce Springsteen (3 of them) and signed Album covers...lotting up Bob Dylan signed albums (borderline IMPOSSIBLE!), The Doors, U2, Pink Floyd and...just look at all these signed Record Albums! They go beyond able to provide scans for these because they just have so much inventory!

http://www.myccsa.com/Search.aspx?SearchText=album

Simply put, freaking amazing.

Larry

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

I specialize in Japanese baseball items and saw this horrible Sadaharu Oh baseball. Not only is the ball completely fake they didn't even write his correct home run total of 868. They should be in prison.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=198544

yes, but that WAS "#805" certified on site by Morales.

[RichardSimon]

Maybe when Oh signed the ball at the CC private signing he misunderstood Lee who was saying "we are paying you $805 for this session" and he got angry and wrote that number on the ball.

[pscolgrafs]

I thought I would bring this thread back as to show you something interesting that was previously discussed (before GreyGhost brings us an update to the new auction that will be posted on March 4th for a good laugh), and it has to deal with the Satchel Paige.

There is a company out there that goes by www.joedimaggioestate.com, and look at what they are offering:

http://www.joedimaggioestate.com/bas...s/image002.jpg

and of course Lot #2664 (back to Coach's) was a signed GPC that sold for $29 in their Feb 2010 auction and of course this beauty that sold for $70.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=198043

[GrayGhost]

LOL. That thing is horrificly bad.. And yes, thank you, I can't wait for the new Coach's Commode auction to be listed soon.

Among the items rumored to be in the auction:

1. Candy Cummings actual shell that he threw to discover the idea of curving a baseball

2. Babe Ruth, 1923 signed ball. Inscribed by Babe "First HR ever at Yankee Stadium" and dated, Authenticated by Scat authentic.

3. James Creighton signed cut on a slip of aging Brown Paper. This hard to find item is worth several thousand

4. Beatles signed and dated Soccer ball from a concert At Wembley stadium. COA from Morales.

And the highlight of this auction from what I understand..LOOK FOR IT.

1919 Signed Baseball inscribed and dated October 1919 by Eddie Cicotte. "The Ball that started the Fix" 1919 WS. Eddie Cicotte. Also signed by Chic Gandil, w "ringleader" inscription.

[RichardSimon]

don't ignore the non sports section,,, the printers plate of the Ten Commandments, the real original Emancipation Proclamation with a p.s. by Abe Lincoln "got to do this, A.L.", Hirohito's declaration of war on the US in 1941 and last but not least, the handwritten plans of Yoko Ono to break up The Beatles.
Won't this crap ever stop?
Any day I expect them to start a new section,, "tell us what you want and you will have it in 24 hours."

[Vintagedegu]

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