Ebay sticking their mitts into sellers pockets again

[D. Bergin]

Not including insertion fees which I haven't even wrapped my head around yet.

Start an item in a traditional style auction listing at $9.95 and have it end at $200.

Present Final Value fee - $8.32
Future Final Value fee - $18.00

That's well over a 100% fee raise.


.............and yet somehow Ebay is selling it as a fee reduction.

[birdman42]

At least they're not charging a 17.5% buyer's fee (yet).

Bill

[iggyman]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Not including insertion fees which I haven't even wrapped my head around yet.

Start an item in a traditional style auction listing at $9.95 and have it end at $200.

Present Final Value fee - $8.32
Future Final Value fee - $18.00

That's well over a 100% fee raise.

Yikes! What if you start an item at .99 cents and it sells for $500.

Present eBay fees = $18.81
Future eBay fees = $45.00

Ouch!!! That is going to leave a mark. They've capped the fees out at $50, but if you do the math.......any sale for less then $1273.75 and your fees go up. They are really going to punish the nickel and dime sellers. I'm sorry to say that includes me. It's time to start the divorce proceedings.
Does "Grand Slam" need anymore pilot sellers???

Lovely Day...

[rhettyeakley]

The people running eBay have to be insane to think this is a good idea. They have already done so mach damage in the past that this is just the icing on the cake. It is almost like they are trying to see how fast they can run this ship into the ground!
-Rhett

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

The people running eBay have to be insane to think this is a good idea. They have already done so mach damage in the past that this is just the icing on the cake. It is almost like they are trying to see how fast they can run this ship into the ground!
-Rhett

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...the CEO of ebay can't wait to use his golden parachute. I got that email the other day and just shook my head...it won't hurt me much because I'm a casual seller and usually only sell something when I'm looking to buy something else, but this is really going to hurt my brother.

[Anthony S.]

Ebay's fee change emails are so disingenuous. Perhaps McDonalds should advertise a 99 cent Big Mac with the "new, easy handing the Big Mac to the customer fee of $6.99."

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Anthony S.

Ebay's fee change emails are so disingenuous. Perhaps McDonalds should advertise a 99 cent Big Mac with the "new, easy handing the Big Mac to the customer fee of $6.99."

Are you kiddin' me? Didn't you read this part?

Either way, pay one easy Final Value Fee of 9% of the winning bid

See there, it's "easy"! Why in hell would you want to pay 8.75% of the first 25 bucks and 3.5% of the amount over that when you can just pay an easy flat fee of 9%?

Keeps things easy peasy, and your calculator in tip top shape not having to figure out all that complicated math.

[D. Bergin]

Leon and Matt better add a bunch of extra servers to their auction program.

I have a feeling Ebay just gifted them a ton of customers.

[egbeachley]

Iggyman has a nice chart, but in all fairness you should subtract the 35 cents (or so) listing fee from the new fee chart to show that the break-even point is a sale price of around $38. That's their target audience.

I believe you can avoid this new fee structure if you just start the opening bid at $1 or more. So for items expected to sell for less than $38, start the bid at $0.95. If more then start at $1.00.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Iggyman has a nice chart, but in all fairness you should subtract the 35 cents (or so) listing fee from the new fee chart to show that the break-even point is a sale price of around $38. That's their target audience.

I believe you can avoid this new fee structure if you just start the opening bid at $1 or more. So for items expected to sell for less than $38, start the bid at $0.95. If more then start at $1.00.

Yeah, but that "break-even point" disappears quickly for any items that sell for more then $38.00.

I don't know of any business plan that involves hoping your items sell for as little as possible to avoid higher auction fees.

[iggyman]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Iggyman has a nice chart, but in all fairness you should subtract the 35 cents (or so) listing fee from the new fee chart to show that the break-even point is a sale price of around $38. That's their target audience.

I believe you can avoid this new fee structure if you just start the opening bid at $1 or more. So for items expected to sell for less than $38, start the bid at $0.95. If more then start at $1.00.

You are correct about the chart (it is flawed), here is a corrected one:



AUCTIONS NO STORE

Sell Price - OLD FVF -NEW FVF -$increase -%increase
$10.00..........$1.03.......$0.90.......(0.13).... .....-12%
$25.00..........$2.34.......$2.25.......(0.09).... ......-4%
$26.50..........$2.39.......$2.39.......(0.01).... .......0%
$50.00..........$3.21.......$4.50........1.29..... .......40%
$75.00..........$4.09.......$6.75........2.66..... .......65%
$100.00.........$4.96......$9.00........4.04...... .......81%
$150.00.........$6.71.....$13.50........6.79...... ......101%
$200.00.........$8.46.....$18.00........9.54...... ......113%
$250.00........$10.21.....$22.50.......12.29...... .....120%
$300.00........$11.96.....$27.00.......15.04...... .....126%
$400.00........$15.46.....$36.00.......20.54...... .....133%
$500.00........$18.96.....$45.00.......26.04...... .....137%
$600.00........$22.46.....$50.00.......27.54...... .....123%
$700.00........$25.96.....$50.00.......24.04...... .......93%
$800.00........$29.46.....$50.00.......20.54...... .......70%
$900.00........$32.96.....$50.00.......17.04...... .......52%
$1000.00......$36.46......$50.00.......13.54...... ......37%


I have not seen where it states that you can get around the new fee structure by listing stuff for $1 or more???? As far as I know, it's .09% irregardless (with the only exception being if you have a store). If my math is correct, the break-even point is $26.50 on auctions that start at .99 cents (assuming an insertion fee of .15 cents).

Lovely Day...