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Old 01-20-2010, 10:12 PM
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In response to Scott L., Larry's card stopped being Larry's card the minute it got it's first bid on ebay.
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:41 PM
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I would think it stops being his card the minute he gets paid for it.
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:11 PM
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I disagree. When a bid is placed on a card, the seller has lost all rights to that card unless there is a reserve price on it, that's how I see it.

Update: Just talked to Larry and he said he has more available. I consider him a stand-up guy for letting me know.

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Old 01-21-2010, 06:59 AM
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As a buyer on e-bay, I have asked numerous times to end an auction early for a scarce item and have been turned down every time. Now I really don't bother asking any more.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:10 AM
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Default a few things

First of all if you are playing by the rules of ebay then it is OK to stop an auction and do a BIN for someone, regardless of if it's got bids or not, I believe. As long as it's through the system I am not sure there is a "rule" against it. That being said, just like most others, I have been tracking cards and they got ended and I was planning on bidding. We have had no less than 20 discussions concerning this, on the board. Everyone has their own philosophy. Personally, if I was selling something I wouldn't stop an auction if there was a bid. If there were no bids, I would if I got the right offer. To that end I have emailed plenty of sellers asking them to give me a shot if they are going to end it early. Lately, most people are aware they are losing money, so they say they will let it run. That is great because if I really need something I have a shot at it....

Also, unfortunately, what Quan said above is true. And this is a GENERAL statement not intended for anyone in this thread. Our forum has gotten so big that not everyone is always going to be good to deal with. WE police it pretty darned well but I can't vouch for almost all of the folks like I used to be able too. It's always good to get a reference if the person you are dealing with is someone you don't know, or know of. It's normal growing pains and I still think over 99% of our members are good....which is a bit better than most places. regards
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:01 AM
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Update: Just talked to Larry and he said he has more available. I consider him a stand-up guy for letting me know.
So it IS ok to end an auction early?
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:13 AM
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No, it is still not OK to end an auction early. It is something I wouldn't do, ever. I was just mentioning that the seller noticed I was upset about it and made the situation right.
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:43 AM
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Default my two cents....................

I have been on both sides of the fence, yes, it sucks when you are hi bid and the auction vanishes. However, the card is the sellers to sale by any means HE chooses. The seller is looking to move the card in the most profitable or easy way for him/her. The bottom line is the seller has the right to decide by which means they sell their item. IMO
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:56 AM
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NO. Ending early is against the rules except in a few circumstances, and ending to sell to someone that hasn't bid isn't one of them.
Item no longer available is the loophole used, it's intended for stuff like accidental damage/destruction of the item while the auction is ongoing, but
it's used to get around the system
Ending to sell to the current high bidder is allowed, as is ending if you find out the item isn't as described.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html

You can't add a buy it now through the system if the item has been bid on.
So once bids have been placed a "buy it now" is outside the system.
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:58 AM
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well here we go,
i can understand if the auction was pulled with 12 hours and the bids were low. that is suspect. i have had sellers pull auctions on me too, but i believe that the item is theirs UNTIL it is paid for. was i wrong? no. did i talk to jeff because he was mad? no. i contacted him beacuse he wanted the card. in fact we are going to meet and go to a leafs sabre hockey game, right jeff? and the the sabers are going to destroy them!!
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:03 AM
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In response to Scott L., Larry's card stopped being Larry's card the minute it got it's first bid on ebay.
I'm hoping that you made this post when you were in an emotional state over not getting a card you wanted, because it might be the most ridiculous thing I've read in quite some time.
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Personally...I HATE it when people end auctions early...but even worse...is when someone writes the seller asking if there is a BIN price...well...if there were a BIN price...wouldn't you see it? Auction, by definition, implies an item being sold to the highest bidder...right?
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I'm hoping that you made this post when you were in an emotional state over not getting a card you wanted, because it might be the most ridiculous thing I've read in quite some time.
To be fair, Rob, it's not like you can find a T206 Marquard on Ebay every da....um....never mind.
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:16 AM
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To be fair, Rob, it's not like you can find a T206 Marquard on Ebay every da....um....never mind.
I gave up trying to find one and instead own a Hologram of one created by the ... never mind.
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What percentage of the time do you think a seller is offered fair value to close an auction? I periodically get offers on things and I politely decline them. When the auction concludes the final price is typically 2-3x the offer. So how often do sellers actually do the right thing by closing early?
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:38 AM
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What percentage of the time do you think a seller is offered fair value to close an auction? I periodically get offers on things and I politely decline them. When the auction concludes the final price is typically 2-3x the offer. So how often do sellers actually do the right thing by closing early?
I don't know how often, but I've had 3 experiences where the seller declined my offer and I've won it when the auction ended for less.
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FWIW, There is a '33 Goudey Ruth auction in the BST that won't be closing early!

Love the Rube like my granpa, but a Ruth instead? hmmm
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