E222 Inquiry

[Brian-Chidester]

Hi Val, Jim and Tim,

Thanks for the follow-up replies. Every now and then I read about a good story that instills some kind of fascination, mystery or emotion, and try to follow it. For us hobbyists, those fascinations lead to great collections, but in the case of something like the E222 set, they are so scarce and (at times) cost-prohibitive, the best way to go about quelling that sense of mystery might be to write an article.

I don't expect there will be a big market for the article or some huge financial payoff. So I hope no one who was expecting to do research themselves would feel like it might inhibit my (potential) article. To the contrary. All research on this elusive set is great. I'll share my notes here as they come along, as well.

Brian

[glenv]

Can't help w/ info, but here's mine (can get you a better scan if you want it):

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[Abravefan11]

Is have 12 players shown for the checklist, is that the most current number?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

Is have 12 players shown for the checklist, is that the most current number?

yes

[bbcard1]

Brian, there have been some great finds out of Central VA...a few years ago I found a Magie error which I brokered for the owner...I have heard of an old house that was being remodeled there and the owners found about 100 packs of piedmonts that had been thrown up there by the original carpenters...the cigs had long been smoked, but the cards were still there. Paul Pollard was a great collector and he lived there. I also got an Mayo Anson (creased, but what the heck) out of the 'burg. I live in Roanoke but still do work there pretty often.

[ValKehl]

Jim - It was not my intent to imply that there weren't other Board members who have E222s - sorry if my post gave this impression. Yes, I could possibly be enticed to trade my beater E222 - I'll email you.

Glen - I would love to see a scan of the back of your Titman card. Seeing yours reminds me that I have also seen a Titman in another Board member's collection.

The E222s fascinate me because of (1) the different typography on the backs, (2) the different ink colors used to print the backs, and (3) the different colors used on the fronts for the same players - for example, compare my Hooker card (gray/black) to Bruce's Hooker card (red/orange).

[Leon]

Ok...I guess I will show mine, for the thousandth time and because this thread is about them....I am sure there are many folks, at least 1-2 I know of, that have more....but I do like to see them when I can. They are so rare....

[ValKehl]

Leon - I'm aware that your McCauley is the only known E222 with an AWA back, and I believe yours is the only example known to exist -right? But, do you know if there are known to be any McCauley cards with an AWH back in existence?
Val

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Leon - I'm aware that your McCauley is the only known E222 with an AWA back, and I believe yours is the only example known to exist -right? But, do you know if there are known to be any McCauley cards with an AWH back in existence?
Val

Hi Val
As far as I know it's the only AWA back known. I haven't seen other McCauleys but I am fairly sure they are out there.

[Abravefan11]

A few things for what they're worth.

The players team associations are from the 1909 season. Six of the twelve didn't play in the league in 1910.

Two of the players switched teams during the 1909 season. Leon posted both cards above.

Pat McCauley started the year with Portsmouth and sometime between the last week of June and the first week of August he moved to Norfolk. Yet he's designated as Portsmouth in the set.

Arthur Smith was traded on July 18, 1909 from Richmond to Lynchburg and he is shown as Lynchburg in the set.

Interesting that both players switched teams around the same time during the season yet one shows the team he started with and the other shows the team he finished with. And both McCauley and Smith moved to Bridgeport in 1910.

Edited to add: I figured out the above on my own and it was probably obvious to most of you. The McCauley image was taken from the T206 set explaining the team change not being noted as it is on the Smith.

[Brian-Chidester]

Who are the twelve players? I have scans of ten players... again, I own none of these myself.

Guiheen, Portsmouth
Hooker, Lynchburg
Ison, Richmond
McCauley, Portsmouth
Otey, Norfolk
Revelle, Richmond
Ryan, Roanoke
Sieber, Richmond
Smith, Lynchburg
Titman, Richmond