White Plains NY Card show this weekend

[calvindog]

The problem with this hobby/business is that dishonesty is so deeply ingrained that it's just laughed off. I usually don't get pissed off unless I'm on the receiving end of a fraud. Problem is that in this hobby it happens everyday and is met with a shrug instead of shock.

[barrysloate]

I've been in this hobby for 28 years and I've seen fraud of varying degrees for all of them. You either accept it, fight it, or just go find something else to do.

[bigfish]

I guess I would try to convey one point. I do not let dealers who attempt to rip me off ruin my show or upset me. I take note and move on. Can't control it and it happens quite frequently. That was my main point. Life it to short.

Happy Collecting~

Toby

[barrysloate]

Toby- I respect your position completely, and know you bring a positive outlook to this hobby. But not everybody deals with being ripped off, or feeling someone is trying to rip you off, the same way. My take is shows were getting depressing and I no longer wanted to go to them. But everyone's reaction is different.

[Jewish-collector]

You need to realize that the the focus of the shows has changed dramatically over the years. It's now more of the dealers and auctions houses meeting their clients & consigners & displaying their cards rather than much actual buying going on. If you understand this, you will enjoy the show much more. Jeff - I hope you can make it down to Baltimore for the National this summer.

Alan

[John V]

Ugh! My excitement about attending the National is taking a beating.

[yanksfan09]

I dont understand why dealers don't set more fair prices to sell as they would be getting cash in hand that day! They wouldn't have to sell over an auction site or be paid by paypal and lose much more $ to fees.

I went there Saturday and most of the tables were grossly overpriced that had pre war. Although I did make a couple decent purchases. I don't mind paying slightly above ebay auction prices but not 2X or more like most ask for. I don't understand the business strategy of these people. Do they expect to get any new customers or make any sales with these prices? They complain shows aren't like they used to be but they're the reason why.

It was also very tight in there (tables too close together), but I still had a good time for a few hours. There was a couple more tables with pre war cards than I was expecting but still probably 90% shiny stuff etc... I don't let that or the crazy prices bother me. I just wish more good people like the ones on the board would set up tables at shows like this and the shows could be so much better. I hate to see people saying they won't go to show anymore etc... I just wish there was a way to make these things better.

I'm looking forward to hopefully going to my first National this year. I don't know if this has been done at Nationals or any shows, but I thought it might be cool if the board set up a table at a show. Sort of a BST table where members could meet, buy, sell, trade...I suppose a table woudn't be necessary but would be a nice meeting spot at least. I don't know...just a thought (probably dumb)....

[Jim VB]

Erick,

Leon's table seems to do exactly that, in an unofficial capacity.

[yanksfan09]

Jim

That works, good to know. I hope I get a chance to go this year, we'll see.....

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Erick,

Leon's table seems to do exactly that, in an unofficial capacity.

For the past 5 or more years, Scott Brockelman and myself have set up and had most folks come to our table and hang out (behind the cases and sitting down). The past 3-4 years we have had the privilege of having Richard Masson and Jay Miller take up homesteading with us too. We always have a great time and everyone is invited. As the National gets closer we will let folks know what our table # is. We hope to see everyone there again. best regards

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

I went there Saturday and most of the tables were grossly overpriced that had pre war. Although I did make a couple decent purchases. I don't mind paying slightly above ebay auction prices but not 2X or more like most ask for. I don't understand the business strategy of these people. Do they expect to get any new customers or make any sales with these prices? They complain shows aren't like they used to be but they're the reason why.

Erick, I totally agree, and I believe I met you at the SGC table. I don't mind paying more than I usually do, but when a dealer is selling 33 Goudey beater commons for $30-$40 each, I just scratch my head. When I first started going to these shows I used to fire back with "I've gotten this for half the price on EBAY", but I stopped after it didn't do any good and I would rather not get the look of death from every table.

I walked out of there with a couple good finds in "dollar" bins as well as taking care of some much needed SGC and JSA business.

[brass_rat]

I dropped by the show on Saturday afternoon. I hadn't been to a show in over 10 years, but I thought it might be fun. Prices were laughable, yes, but I enjoyed walking around the room just checking everything out. I dropped off a few cards for grading and went on my way...

In a way, card shows are like stock exchange floors -- in the old days, they were fun, had lots of camaraderie and all of the trading volume. Today, however, everything moves much faster in both venues, most trading occurs electronically, and the information gap (between all participants) isn't nearly as large as it used to be. Volume has moved off of exchange floors, as well as away from card shows...

I think someone pointed out that the tables were close together...maybe a little too close -- a few times I passed individuals that may not have had a shower in a few days...certainly one of the things about card shows that I didn't miss.

Steve

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by brass_rat

I think someone pointed out that the tables were close together...maybe a little too close -- a few times I passed individuals that may not have had a shower in a few days...certainly one of the things about card shows that I didn't miss. Steve

I also agree, I hate getting the "People's Elbow" anytime I stopped to check out a table. And yes, it was a little stinky...got to love our hobby!

[Rickyy]

I think now the only show I attend these days are the virtual Net 54 card show.

[barrysloate]

Jeff- I'll send Sarno an email and see if we can set something up.

James- we'll keep you posted.

[Jim VB]

Deleted because Barry is such a nice guy!

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by calvindog

The problem with this hobby/business is that dishonesty is so deeply ingrained that it's just laughed off. I usually don't get pissed off unless I'm on the receiving end of a fraud. Problem is that in this hobby it happens everyday and is met with a shrug instead of shock.

Sadly true.