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Old 01-16-2010, 08:07 AM
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Hi Mark and thanks for jumping in. I've sent a scan as you requested to your email address and am attaching closeups of the players here as well.
Thanks to everyone who replied to the thread with what they know about this team. The knowledge here never ceases to amaze me and is appreciated.








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Old 01-16-2010, 09:58 PM
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The additional posts were helpful.

First - Fred Beck is confirmed:
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Art Wilson is a bit more difficult because of the angle in the Bloomington photo. The camera is effectively looking down at his face from above quite a bit. There are plenty of pics of Art Wilson, but I found none from that angle.

Given the best comparison I could find, you do have to be able to visualize how his features would look rotated downward 15-20 degrees or so. In my judgement everything looks right, and ear matching is still very do-able. I am sure that it is Wilson.
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:14 PM
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As to Red Nelson, given the avaiable photos (Colgan's chip and 2 from the LoC Bain collection), and the added clarity of Tony's latest post, I am not convinced that the guy front row far left is him - just not sure.
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Mark, your knowledge and expertise in this field is nothing short of amazing. Thanks for everything up to this point. Below is the team roster of the 1907 Bloomington Bloomers.
If anyone can add a picture to who already hasn't been confirmed to match more players up, please let myself know or simply add it to this thread.
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1907 BLOOMINGTON BLOOMERS TEAM ROSTER
Fred Beck - Back row 3rd from left
Williams Connors
Frank Dang
Fred Donovan
A. Ebright
Earl Graham
John Herbert
Bob Koestner - Back row 4th from left
Albert Kuhns
Red Nelson
Roy Snyder
Harry Syfert - Top row 4th from right
Edward Thorsen
Art "Dutch" Wilson - Front row 4th from left
E. Winans

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Are these two photos a match? If they are, that's Harry Syfert in the top row, fourth from the right. This is from the Three-I League website:

"Syfert pitched for the Bloomers in 1904, Decatur the following two seasons, and then two more for Bloomington. Syfert's 52 appearances in 1907 remained the league's record high until 1957. After four years in Class B ball, he found himself playing for Nashville in the well-regarded Southern League. His career included stops in several other minor league circuits, culminating with a no-hitter for Winnipeg, Manitoba of the Northern League. In 1912, he returned from his continental wanderings to play for his hometown Bloomers, and the following year the club hired him to manage ..."

"In a 1939 article in the Bloomington Pantagraph, Syfert, then a grocer, reminisced about his youthful turn with the Bloomers. 'Our entire club was made up of boys who lived within a radius of 100 miles and the fans knew them personally and turned out to see their friends play ball,' he recalled. Once, after beating Dubuque on a Friday, Syfert received permission to spend all Saturday fishing. He returned Sunday to pitch 15 innings in a Bloomers win, a performance that included hitting the game's winning home run ..."
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Chris, great job. I think you may be right. Sure looks like Syfert to me. Mark what do you think? In regards to a Fred Donovan match I found the following. Below is a team photo of the 1904 Bloomington team which Donovan played on and is pictured as the #7 player. Although it's tough to make out from this picture it's all I've been able to find at this point of pictures depicting Donovan. It does resemble this player though on my cabinet. Keep in mind my photo is 3 years later into his career than the team photo on the left.

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