Carl Horner photo- ID help

mr2686 · #1 01-12-2010, 03:59 PM

Here's another picture

drc · #2 01-12-2010, 04:05 PM

Duly note that with the non-card images, the majority of Horner's baseball photos are of NY Giants players. If one found an odd Horner baseball photo, statistical odds would be the player would a Giant.

slidekellyslide · #3 01-12-2010, 04:21 PM

I don't think it's Ames either

prewarsports · #4 01-12-2010, 04:29 PM

I would not worry too much about it not being a baseball player. It was from the Christies sale of the Baseball Magazine archives so there is little doubt the photo pictures a Baseball Player and was probably misidentified years later. I am sure the exact image will turn up eventually on a composite and it could be a complete nobody, but I would be pretty sure with the provenance that it is a Baseball player. That is the first Horner I have seen that is not an albumem photo glued to a mount (at least that is how it appears).

Rhys

Leon · #5 01-13-2010, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prewarsports

I would not worry too much about it not being a baseball player. It was from the Christies sale of the Baseball Magazine archives so there is little doubt the photo pictures a Baseball Player and was probably misidentified years later. I am sure the exact image will turn up eventually on a composite and it could be a complete nobody, but I would be pretty sure with the provenance that it is a Baseball player. That is the first Horner I have seen that is not an albumem photo glued to a mount (at least that is how it appears).

Rhys

I should have mentioned there is in fact a Christies sticker on the back of the photo. As for it not being on a mount, I concur, I don't remember seeing others not on a mount. That, in itself, was not an alarm to me though. I didn't think that was a big deal. So a return will be done unless someone wants it for what I paid for it, which was about $195 (I think)....See how I snuck in a BST on the forum?

(bad me.....)

Thanks again for all of the help and responses.....

rman444 · #6 01-13-2010, 11:44 AM

I was bidding on this cabinet and wasn't sure about the photo match as well. I guess anyone can look like anyone if you look long enough at it. Throw in a couple of rum and cokes and it takes much less time!

bmarlowe1 · #7 01-12-2010, 04:39 PM

Not Ames - ears don't match, upper lip/filtrum is different.

DixieBaseball · #8 01-12-2010, 05:18 PM

Ames... This image compared to this Ames picture looks strikingly similar. The 2 photo's that Mark used for comparison don't as much. (The thick lips, point to the nose, the ears, eyes, and eyebrows look very similar)

bmarlowe1 · #9 01-12-2010, 05:41 PM

Comparison -photos aren't chosen because they do or do not look similar to the photo in question. They are chosen because they are clear and at least close in angle to that photo, allowing for the best possible objective detailed feature matching.

If the critical features don't match, then it's not him. Finding a 3rd photo that looks subjectively more similar adds nothing useful. BTW - the upper lip structure in all the posted photos of Ames is completley different than that in Leon's photo.

rhettyeakley · #10 01-12-2010, 05:48 PM

Jeremy, they aren't the same player. The area below the philtrum on the vermilion of Ames' lips has a very distinct protrusion not seen on the Horner photo, Ames almost has a small cleft at the base. Also the "Cupid's bow" of the two players' lips are different.

bmarlowe1 · #11 01-12-2010, 05:58 PM

BTW - either spelling of philtrum (filtrum) is correct.

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