Who Should Be in the Hall that isn't

[paul]

I hate to show my ignorance, but what did Carl Mays do that puts him in the same category as Hal Chase and the Black Sox? I know he threw the pitch that killed Ray Chapman, which is a horrible thing. But was it an intentional beanball?

[Robextend]

I believe Mays beaning was a spitball that had gotten away from him.

I could be wrong, but I thought Mays was also accused of throwing games?

[tbob]

Mike Donlin.
Bert Blyleven.
Tony Oliva.
Ron Santo.
Ed Reulbach.
Joe Jackson.
Pete Rose.

[tbob]

5 voters submitted blank ballots. Blyleven lost out by 5 votes. Karros got 2 votes. Put these all together and you have idiocy.

[calvindog]

John Candalaria
Bruce Kison
Fred Lynn
Mike Easler
Will Clark
Frank Tanana

[tbob]

Originally Posted by calvindog

John Candalaria
Bruce Kison
Fred Lynn
Mike Easler
Will Clark
Frank Tanana

Jeff- you forgot Dock Ellis who for no other reason should be in for pitching a perfect game while under the influence of LSD. Let's see Clemens try that!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by tbob

Jeff- you forgot Dock Ellis who for no other reason should be in for pitching a perfect game while under the influence of LSD. Let's see Clemens try that!

Good point. And speaking of Clemens, how nauseous do you think he gets everytime the HOF inducts players? I can't wait for his first year on the ballot. Will he do better or worse than McGwire? I actually hate him much more than McGwire, not even close.

[WWGjohn]

My pick would be Jim Kaat. 283 wins and 16 gold gloves seem to me to be excellent credentials.

John

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by Robextend

I could be wrong, but I thought Mays was also accused of throwing games?

Right you are.

Cheers,
Blair

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by Robextend

I believe Mays beaning was a spitball that had gotten away from him.

At least one report has it as a high fastball thrown to move Chapman off the plate. Chapman never saw it and never moved. Mays was no stranger to a hit batsman. Mays was cleared of criminal wrongdoing in Chapman's death after an interview at the DA's office.

Cheers,
Blair