Is this card really worth that????

Originally Posted by Wite3

A few things first...Andrew has bought many T205s in the past year but I am fairly certain, I now own one of the largest and most diverse t205 collections. I have also, watched, charted, and handled thousands of t205s in the last decade. In the past 15 years I have put one near master set together missing only a Drum and a Hobby no stats, and am very close on a second set (minus three cards). Andrews set and cards are certainly in better condition than mine but I love my beaters.

In no way shape or form will I arguee this with Josh. I have only been activly building my set for a yr now but I want to create a very unique set with as many not so common backs as possible. Is it going to be worth more? Maybe but Maybe not. Its more of a challenge to do this otherwise I may be done to quick and burn out.

Also if a Joss Cycle sold for just under $1200 then a Matty should be just as cheap right

[Misunderestimated]

I think that this card's "value" increased exponentially the moment it was added as a variation to the PSA set Registry. Whether that is as it should be is another question entirely. ....

[Matt E.]

Originally Posted by Misunderestimated

I think that this card's "value" increased exponentially the moment it was added as a variation to the PSA set Registry. Whether that is as it should be is another question entirely. ....

Why this card, why now? How does one get a card added as a variation?

Matt E.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Matt E.

Why this card, why now?

I heard that upon learning you were close to completing your master set, SCD, PSA and SGC all had a meeting and made the decision to add it to their checklists so that you'd have another hurdle to overcome.

[chaddurbin]

this reminds me of the e97 hartsel variation that was added to the registry a few years ago...as soon as it was "deemed" a legit variation by 3rd party auth. the price must've 3x or 4x right away...LOL! from a $75 common that i'd seen come up multiple times (even bought one from tbob) suddenly jumping to $500-$800. absurd hype for the master set collectors....

seems like most of the long time t205 set collectors have come to a consensus on the matty (registry/pop overhype)...i'd rather have the joss cycle because the matty portrait is kinda creepy with those bug eyes (sorry jim).

[Matt E.]

Originally Posted by Matt

I heard that upon learning you were close to completing your master set, SCD, PSA and SGC all had a meeting and made the decision to add it to their checklists so that you'd have another hurdle to overcome.

Matt,
Now that's funny. That's it I'm cracking them all out today.

It really is a pain in the ass hurdle however.

Matt E.

[tbob]

The Hartsel/Hartsell variation is a good comparison as Quan points out. I was able to get a one "L" Hartsel finally when I decided to complete the master set of E97s. It had already started tailing down from its original high price and I expect the Matty 37-1 to do the same.

[Misunderestimated]

I don't know how one gets a "variation" included in the PSA (or SGC) registry. When PSA first listed the T205 set, the Wilhelm and Matty (maybe Moran too?) "variations" were not recognized.
As a longtime T205 collector I want to second the post above about the "multipliers" for the Cycle back. The multipliers are basically a myth except for the really scarce backs. Most of the time a seller will not get any more $ for one back than another in the T205 set. Whether its a Piedmont (really common) or Sovereign or American Beauty or Hassan or Cycle or whatever, it makes little if any difference to the vast majority of buyers. The only time the company on the back really "commands a premium" in the market is when the back is one of the really scarce ones like Drum or Hindu.