Is this card really worth that????

[asoriano]

Bob,

I don't follow the pop reports closely, but here is some information regarding a few variations.

I can tell you that the "A.P." Leifield variation is pretty easy to find (I've owned four at one time) and doesn't carry too much of a premium. A "3" sells for about $35-$50.

The W.A. Latham pops up for sale every now and then, but is very hard to find in a grade higher than a "4". If you do, expect to pay well.

The Wilhelm "suffered" is very, very tough. In my opinion, it is the second toughest card in the master set and tougher than the Matty Cycle.

Another variation that is very difficult to acquire is the Hoblitzell Name Correct, No Cin. variation. I'd also say that this card is tougher than the Matty Cycle. I wasn't surprised how well the SGC 60 did in the B&L auction. You don't find it often, and when you do, it is usually in low grade.

On a side note, the toughest Hall of Famer, by far, is the Joss. You don't see many examples that grade higher than VG-EX. Lots of collectors for the Joss, too.

As far as the Matty Cycle is concerned, I don't think we will ever see an example go for more than it did in the OldJudge auction. I'm fairly confident it will decline in price over a certain amount of time.

[Wite3]

Oops...some clarification needed I see...yes, I was talking Joss Cycle to Matty Cycle...the Matty Cycle is rare, the Joss Cycle is rarer. Should a Matty Cycle cost more than a Joss Cycle, nope. My list was by card...if you go by scarcity of backs then there are many cards scarcer than Matty cycle (and joss for that matter)...

Oh yeah...Cobb does not come with a Cycle back as far as I can tell.

Joshua