E100 printers scrap revisited

[packs]

I thought I remembered these being put up on eBay. Anyway, if they were printers scraps wouldn't they still have the tints? Its the entire card but without the borders, the T206 scraps we see always have the coloring don't they? Or at least partially colored? Have there been any black and white image only T206 scraps?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

I thought I remembered these being put up on eBay. Anyway, if they were printers scraps wouldn't they still have the tints? Its the entire card but without the borders, the T206 scraps we see always have the coloring don't they? Or at least partially colored? Have there been any black and white image only T206 scraps?

Yes, both of these were bought off of ebay. They came from that same hoard where the others were consigned. They just walked into a show and right up to the Beckett tables. As for them being scraps, or ad pieces, or whatever....I would say it's difficult to tell. They certainly could have come off of a Bishops ad piece that we have never seen. I don't know if they would have a tint if they were printers scrap. I am not a printer, though there are a few on the board, but I would guess scraps could be almost anything....but that is just a guess...They are certainly the same images as the cards' pictures. That is all I/we can be sure of.

[jimonym]

I'm no printer either, but it seems to me that part of what it means to be a "scrap" is that the partially-printed or trashed "scrap" derives from the same printing plates as the finished card. These clearly didn't; both the images (by size) and type font (also by size) are different.

Is that glue residue on the back of the Powell?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jimonym

I'm no printer either, but it seems to me that part of what it means to be a "scrap" is that the partially-printed or trashed "scrap" derives from the same printing plates as the finished card. These clearly didn't; both the images (by size) and type font (also by size) are different.

Is that glue residue on the back of the Powell?

Yes, I think it's residue on the back of Powell. The only fly in the ointment on the E100's are that the 2 different series were in fact cropped differently. That at least makes ya' think about whether these could have been done as a test? I guess "ad piece" would be a better term but it doesn't feel right calling it that either.....I am open for suggestions .

[packs]

The Type 2's are definitely more closely cropped and have a more upfront image than the Type 1's, but Powell doesn't appear in the Type 2 set.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

The Type 2's are definitely more closely cropped and have a more upfront image than the Type 1's, but Powell doesn't appear in the Type 2 set.

Powell hasn't been found (yet), or at least catalogued. He might appear as a late entry though.....So far you are stating the obvious, which is fairly easy to do. Thanks for the explanations .

[dstudeba]

Leon,

Are those all scaled the same? As I recall from the dimensions from the auctions on eBay the images were the same size as the issued cards. Also since the scan you show is a composite to cut out the holders on the new cards, it is a bit deceiving.
As probably previously mentioned, the scraps have nothing to do with Type IIs, the font and cropping is wrong.