Authenticity On These Psa Cards

ScottFandango · #1 12-06-2009, 06:52 AM

those are the Craiglist Fakes from about (8 months ago)....

very poor Flips IMO...dont see how someone got taken.....

could be the seller got screwed, and he is just trying to screw someone back and recoup som eof his losses....

Peter_Spaeth · #2 12-06-2009, 09:09 AM

The spacing on the serial numbers is slightly too close.

I would follow the 5-second rule used in the art world, if you aren't sure after five seconds that it's the real thing, assume it isn't.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 12-06-2009, 09:13 AM

PSA does need to confront its security issues. While I suppose anything can be replicated with enough effort, it seems to me that holograms, which they used until perhaps the early 2000s, might help.

jcmtiger · #4 12-06-2009, 10:30 AM

This is another Cobb PSA label. I had this graded in California at a show on site grading late 1990's.

Joe

Jim VB · #5 12-06-2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

PSA does need to confront its security issues. While I suppose anything can be replicated with enough effort, it seems to me that holograms, which they used until perhaps the early 2000s, might help.

I agree, Peter, but the problem is, what do you do with the millions of PSA cards already in the markeyplace? Changed slabs, holograms, a unique font for the labels, would have been great ideas years ago, but now... a little late.

(By the way, this discussion isn't unique to PSA. Any grading company making visible changes faces the same issues.)

calvindog · #6 12-06-2009, 11:27 AM

You guys have to remember that PSA is making plastic slabs for cardboard -- not weapons-grade plutonium. Adding any extra security measures which they believe are not cost-effective is not going to happen. Everyone sends their cards into PSA anyway...I don't expect any significant change coming into effect.

And frankly, it took me a millisecond to note that the flips were off on the cards posted in this thread. Incredibly, the thieves can make great looking fake cards but they can't create a good, fake flip as well?

Zach Wheat · #7 12-06-2009, 11:55 AM

Thanks Joe. That is what I was trying to show for comparison purposes. The font spacing is tighter on the Craigslist fakes than on the real PSA flips, even though everything else (aside from the obvious type font changes over the years) seems almost right.

Would anyone pay more to grade high end cards for a "more secure" flip & holder on your high end cards? This may result in more comfort to a potential buyer when the cards are eventually resold. I probably would on the high end cards I had graded. But offerring this option from grading companies would be an admission that there is a problem.

jp1216 · #8 12-06-2009, 11:57 AM

These kinds of threads scare me. I guess when you buy a high priced item - trust in the seller is very important. I now see the fake flips. I didn't at first... I will say - PSA slabs seem the easiest to crack/reuse.

Fake cards are getting way too good also.

Peter_Spaeth · #9 12-06-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog

You guys have to remember that PSA is making plastic slabs for cardboard -- not weapons-grade plutonium. Adding any extra security measures which they believe are not cost-effective is not going to happen. Everyone sends their cards into PSA anyway...I don't expect any significant change coming into effect.

And frankly, it took me a millisecond to note that the flips were off on the cards posted in this thread. Incredibly, the thieves can make great looking fake cards but they can't create a good, fake flip as well?

Only a matter of time before they focus on that. Holograms cannot be that expensive, they used them regularly for the first 10 years.

ChiefBenderForever · #10 12-06-2009, 03:12 PM

On any card worth over 100.00 or 250.00 they could include a small serial number card with a scan of front and back, it would be another step but they could include an extra small fee, or just a LOA with a scan of front and back, but I suppose those could be forged as well.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
FS: Lot's of cards to choose from - '50s thru '80s	Archive	1950 to 1959 Baseball cards- B/S/T	1	01-25-2008 04:44 PM
PSA Topps Multi-Player Slogan cards for Sale	Archive	Everything Else, Football, Non-Sports etc.. B/S/T	0	07-26-2007 06:40 AM
1933 Goudey PSA 4 cards and 1933 WWG	Archive	1920 to 1949 Baseball cards- B/S/T	1	09-07-2006 12:39 PM
Classics Cards	Archive	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	1	12-14-2005 11:53 PM
PSA damages cards? Anything can be done? A O/T NON-bashing thread	Archive	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	10	12-08-2005 11:06 AM