1921 Baltimore Orioles Tip top Bread.

[Rich Klein]

Leon and myself would discuss this endlessly. We agree there are times where it is better off to disclose a new find and probably times where there are not times to disclose such a find. Since I missed where Dan does not have a Grove; then I can understand more why he kept that a secret. But now; more will come out and Dan won't have the secret any more AND he may get less money than if he were the one to break the news of the item and sell them. That's why I think he "Blew it" so to speak. Hey, it was his decision and I hope (*for him*) that if and when he sells these cards; he gets ever more then H&S does.

Regards
Rich

[slidekellyslide]

I have been trying for two years now to get the 1953 Weaver's Wafers (potato chips) cards I own listed in the SCD big book so it will hopefully root out some more of them..I don't care about the value, I'd just like to obtain more of them and having them listed may bring some out. As it stands I have the only two I have ever seen. I haven't seen the new SCD yet so I don't know if they got in this year. (they'd be listed in the vintage minor league section.)

[Rich Klein]

But now that Bob's back; and with his pronounced interest in minor league cards of that era; if you send him a scan and what you know he can add those cards to the Krause (F&W) data base and hopefully they can be added for 2011

Rich

[slidekellyslide]

Thanks Rich, I did send the info to Bob a few months ago...I also sent the info to Don F, but apparently he did not add them.

[Exhibitman]

As far as value goes...My experience has been that most cards I've discovered and publicized via my site/book have gone up in value as people learned about them. Some additional examples then have come out of the woodworks and the prices have taken a bit of a parabolic arc before stabilizing. Case in point is the pre-1870 CDV of John C. Heenan from the Fredricks Specialite series. My research points to it being the first commercially produced and sold boxing card. Before I researched it and published the card was a $200 item on a normal day, like any other CDV of any 19th century fighter whose name isn't Sullivan Corbett, Fitzsimmons or Dempsey. After I published, it went up tenfold and then stabilized around $1,000, when it can be found. If I'd sat on the info I'd have been able to pick off the handful that have come up over the last 5 years; I chose to spill the beans, which is an example of why I'm never gonna be rich. I definitely understand both schools of thought; I just prefer that the knowledge be out there. As Emil Faber said, "Knowledge is good."

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

As far as value goes...My experience has been that most cards I've discovered and publicized via my site/book have gone up in value as people learned about them. Some additional examples then have come out of the woodworks and the prices have taken a bit of a parabolic arc before stabilizing. Case in point is the pre-1870 CDV of John C. Heenan from the Fredricks Specialite series. My research points to it being the first commercially produced and sold boxing card. Before I researched it and published the card was a $200 item on a normal day, like any other CDV of any 19th century fighter whose name isn't Sullivan Corbett, Fitzsimmons or Dempsey. After I published, it went up tenfold and then stabilized around $1,000, when it can be found. If I'd sat on the info I'd have been able to pick off the handful that have come up over the last 5 years; I chose to spill the beans, which is an example of why I'm never gonna be rich. I definitely understand both schools of thought; I just prefer that the knowledge be out there. As Emil Faber said, "Knowledge is good."

When I discovered JL Wilkinson on the Hopkins Bros postcard I decided to publicize that because I feel like that kind of information is vital to the hobby and he was a hall of famer with no known card. That Hopkins card routinely sold for $10-$20 on ebay and after it was publicized sold for $300-$400...it has since come down since I believe most hall of fame rookie collectors were able to pick an example up...I now see it selling in the $40-$50 range, but I don't think many people are aware of its significance. The card is usually sold on ebay with no mention of Wilkinson.