Need opinion...Wagner t206-the age old question

[SethY]

I am the furthest thing from an expert and if I were you I would not get too worried after reading my post because I know nothing regarding this subject compared to most of the guys around here, but I still might as well put in my opinion.

I can't tell anything from the front, but the "wear and tear" on the back of the card shows patterns that seem very calculated, and too perfect regarding their placement and variations in design. Does any one else see the same thing as I do? I have seen wear and tear on many cards and do not often see such perfect grooves and similar marks across an entire card.

This is just my opinion and I am sure many others can help. I hope it is real just as much as you!

Happy Thanksgiving,
Seth

[rdwyer]

Player Name and Team Name:

All genuine T206s, they are printed in solid, deep BROWN letters, not fuzzy dots. Reprints show they are printed in composition of color dots.
You can clearly see the different under a high power (x10) magnifier.

Border Line Around the Colored Photo:

Every genuine T206 cards, they are printed in solid black pinstripe separating the white border from the colored photo. Reprints show the line as a string of dark dots. You can see the different under a high power (x10) magnifier.

Letter Size on Team Name and League Designation:

On a genuine example, the first letters on team name and league designation are in larger size than the rest of other letters. Reprints usually has one size on all letters.

[Steve D]

Unfortunately, it looks like a fake to me.

There should be a solid black line around the central image (orange background and uniform). I do not see one on this card. Even with the wear on the card (which just doesn't look right), there should be evidence of this black border. Many of the known fake Wagners share this diagnostic condition of a missing border.

Also, regarding the wear around the edges.....real T206s don't wear like this. The wear on this card matches the contrived wear inflicted on fakes, to try to make them appear old.

Therefore, I would not waste my money on submitting it.


Steve

[ChiefBenderForever]

Nice rust effect

[FrankWakefield]

For under $20 you can get a uv light on eBay... Last one I saw was $16 for shipping and all. If that card of yours is illuminated with black light, it will fluoresce, because it is printed on paper that is 60 years old or less, paper that has had brighteners added. As they're saying above, the card is a reprint. I suggest you get a black light, a uv light, then illuminate some real T206s along with that one, then you'll see the proof.

[iggyman]

Just in case you need a 12th opinion...

coun⋅ter⋅feit

1. an imitation intended to be passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine; forgery.


By the way, even the rust is fake...


Lovely Day...

[Ladder7]

There's always hope., I hear these guys can help!
http://www.bobconnelly.com/honuswagnert206.html

[GrayGhost]

Sorry your card is a fake, but if you consign it to Coach's corner, theyd send it to FCG (Famous Card Grading) and it would be entombed FCG 1

[fkw]

That card is an easy one, missing the thin black line around the photo and the "G" on the uniform is touching the border. Both of these show that the photo was cropped when they designed this reprint.