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Old 11-25-2009, 03:45 PM
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Most definitely SGC could make a mistake just as any other TPG can. That being said how do we know it wasn't tampered with when it was broken out?

I feel a large percentage (don't know the number exactly) of NM-MT and above pre-war cards are tainted. Unless there is great provenance, or some reason to own one, I usually shy away from high grade. Not always, but usually.
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Tampering with a $15,000 card that already had graded seems quite a gamble. More likely it was no good to begin with.
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Tampering with a $15,000 card that already had graded seems quite a gamble. More likely it was no good to begin with.
I agree but there is always that chance of someone thinking they could go from an 8 to a 9....then the 10k-15k becomes 30k-50k.....A gamble yes, but I have seen worse...
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I feel a large percentage (don't know the number exactly) of NM-MT and above pre-war cards are tainted.

My point exactly.
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That card has really big borders and looks fine. I have to agree that the risk buying high grade cards, even graded ones, is great.
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That card has really big borders and looks fine. I have to agree that the risk buying high grade cards, even graded ones, is great.
I agree, it has to measure out, there is thousands of graded T206 with less border than that, wtf ?
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There must be something with the border of one or more sides that leads them to believe it's been trimmed. I understand having all your cards be of a single TPG company but geez.....why break something like that out when there are absolutely no guarantees. Just seems kinda crazy. If he paid $15K for it, how much will it bring now? $1500-$2000 just based on the 'look'. It'll be interesting to see what it brings. Cautionary tale for the resubmit game......
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Anybody who has a beautiful SGC 88- and that card is gorgeous- and cracks it out to resubmit, deserves what he got.
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Anybody who has a beautiful SGC 88- and that card is gorgeous- and cracks it out to resubmit, deserves what he got.
No doubt.
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Anybody who has a beautiful SGC 88- and that card is gorgeous- and cracks it out to resubmit, deserves what he got.
Once again, conclusions drawn and assumptions made without knowledge of all the facts.

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Default a real shame

It's still a beautiful card. PSA collector or not, that was a foolish gamble to bust the holder.
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The sad thing is that whoever buys this cards is most probably going to crack it and make at least 1 attempt to have it numerically graded, if not more.
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The sad thing is that whoever buys this cards is most probably going to crack it and make at least 1 attempt to have it numerically graded, if not more.
Save the scans. You are right, it will probably come full circle.
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