New idea for a collection -- help me build the want list

[uffda51]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

In about nine years, when your son is older, you could add Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich to the list.

Mike and Fritz. #6 on the ESPN list of all-time shcocking moments in baseball history.

All kidding aside, a great idea for a collection.

[mark evans]

Chuck Stobbs. He gave up a tape-measure homer to the Mick that is commemorated in the 1961 Topps set. I have the card signed by Stobbs (incidentally, one of the two major leaguers to have graduated from my high school, the other being Hank Foiles, his battery mate). Bought the card from Huggins and Scott store in Wheaton, MD many years ago.

[tbob]

Dang! Tawny Kitaen used to be such a babe, she looks horrible now, even discounting that it is a mug shot.

[rfurnish]

Hal Chase, Ty Cobb, & Tris Speaker have all been mentioned in game fixing discussions as well.

I have not seen Cobb on this list anywhere. May have missed it but heres my reason for a Cobb vote.

On May 15, 1912, Cobb assaulted a heckler, Claude Lueker, in the stands in New York. Lueker and Cobb had traded insults with each other through the first three innings, and the situation climaxed when Lueker called Cobb a "half-nigger." Cobb, in his discussion of the incident (My Life in Baseball: The True Record, Ty Cobb and Al Stump, Doubleday, 1961, pp. 131–135), avoided such explicit words, but alluded to it by saying the man was "reflecting on my mother's color and morals." Cobb stated in the book that he warned Highlanders manager Harry Wolverton that if something wasn't done about the man, there would be trouble. No action was taken. At the end of the sixth inning, after being challenged by teammates Sam Crawford and Jim Delahanty to do something about it, Cobb climbed into the stands and attacked Lueker, who it turns out was handicapped (he had lost all of one hand and three fingers on his other hand in an industrial accident). When onlookers shouted at Cobb to stop because the man had no hands, Cobb reportedly replied, "I don't care if he has no feet!"

guy above beat me by seconds

[Mark]

In the 1917 World Series, the White Sox win if they take game 6. Felsch hits a fly to right which is dropped by Davey Robertson. When the throw comes in from the outfield, Rube Benton, Bill Rariden and Walter Holke faill to cover home and Collins scores the decisive run. Max Flack muffed a play that made him the goat of the 1918 Series. 1919 is infamous. In 1924, in the 12th inning of game 7, Hank Gowdy tripped over his own mask and didn't catch a foul pop. Next thing you know, a grounder to third bounces over Freddie Liindstrom's head, a run scores, and the Giants lose the Series. The next year, AL MVP Roger Peckinpaugh commits 8 errors as the Senators fall to the Pirates in 7 games. And then in 1926 there was that foolish stolen base attempt by that Ruth guy.

[paul]

Bill Buckner. Or better yet, the real goat of the 1986 series, John McNamara. After taking Buckner out for defensive reasons in every post season game, McNamara admitted he left him in for the final inning of game 6 so that he could be on the field to celebrate the world series championship. What a dope.

You could also include Al Downing for serving up Hank Aaron's #715.

And Harry Frazee (did I remember his name correctly) for selling Babe Ruth. But I don't think he has any cards.

Any member of the 1899 Cleveland Spiders, by far the worst team in history.

[Steve D]

I just thought of another one:

Eddie Waitkus.

His shooting and subsequent comeback, was the basis for The Natural by Bernard Malamud, as well as the subsequent movie starring Robert Redford.


Steve

[tedzan]

Herb Score and Gil McDougald....both of these guys were never the same after that fateful night on May 7, 1957
at Cleveland's Municipal Stadium when McDougald's sharp line drive struck Score in the face.


TED Z

[iggyman]

I have one word for you and your son.........Peckinpaugh!!!

I believe that "Eight Errors" in a seven-game world series is more then qualified for enshrinement.

Lovely Day...

[wolterse]

I'm shocked that no one has mentioned this one but you have to include the chicago white sox players caught up in the 1919 world series scandal!

Eddie Cicotte, Buck Weaver, Chick Gandil, Swede Risberg, Lefty Williams, Joe Jackson, Hap Felsch, and Kid Gleason.

[GoldenAge50s]

Willard Hershberger--the only major leaguer to commit suicide during the course of a season.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by wolterse

I'm shocked that no one has mentioned this one but you have to include the chicago white sox players caught up in the 1919 world series scandal!

Eddie Cicotte, Buck Weaver, Chick Gandil, Swede Risberg, Lefty Williams, Joe Jackson, Hap Felsch, and Kid Gleason.

Fred McMullin thanks you for substituting Kid Gleason as the 8th man out.

You could also include Joe Gedeon of the St Louis Browns who became the "9th man out" for his participation in the Black Sox scandal.

[canjond]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Herb Score and Gil McDougald....both of these guys were never the same after that fateful night on May 7, 1957
at Cleveland's Municipal Stadium when McDougald's sharp line drive struck Score in the face.


TED Z

You could also add McDougald to the list for the unfortunate circumstances surrounding him and Bob Cerv in batting practice.

[Steve D]

Mitch Williams - gave up Joe Carter's homerun in the 1993 World Series.


Steve

[slidekellyslide]

Len Koenecke was on the wrong side of a fire extinguisher that ended his life in midair over Toronto.

http://www.thedeadballera.com/Obits/....Len.Obit.html

It may be nearly impossible to find a card of his though as I think the 1932 NY Giants Schedule Postcards might be the only one he appeared on???

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Len Koenecke was on the wrong side of a fire extinguisher that ended his life in midair over Toronto.

http://www.thedeadballera.com/Obits/....Len.Obit.html

It may be nearly impossible to find a card of his though as I think the 1932 NY Giants Schedule Postcards might be the only one he appeared on???

I missed this thread the first time around. Thanks to Frank for bumping it.

They're not impossible to find, but damn difficult.

[FrankWakefield]

Wow, Jim. That is one fine card. If that one is replacing one you have that is raggedy, folded, and the like, please contact me. I could find a home for one of those.

[Brian Van Horn]

Glenn Wright deserves to be mentioned as well and not just on a four on one. He had a gym accident in Pittsburgh in the late 1920's and was never the same.

Also, let's not forget about the third base human traffic jam of Dazzy Vance, Chick Fewster and Babe Herman.

[brickyardkennedy]

Benny Kauff - Banned for life by Landis for being a member of a car theft ring.
Picked off first base, three times in one game.

Paul Hines - Arrested for shoplifting

[Brian Van Horn]

Milt Pappas for two reasons:

1. He was traded for an aging Frank Robinson
2. He had a perfect game for 8 2/3 innings before a disputed walk.