SGC no cert. lookup

[Peter_Spaeth]

I also think that if auction houses identified their consignors, and all cards could be traced to their original submitter, many cards would sell for less. Thus my statement about the hobby being configured to protect card doctors. That is not to say it was not even worse before grading services.

[Al C.risafulli]

I understand your concern, but we're talking about ignoring the privacy of the overwhelming majority of good people in this hobby so that we can learn the identity of consignors/submitters who MAY be fraudsters, and who MAY be committing fraud.

I've seen multiple threads and had multiple conversations where one person or group of people thinks an individual engages in fraud, while another group disagrees.

More and more I'm starting to think that the answer is to identify the fraud - don't reject it, just holder it differently somehow. Create a market for it. The only question is whether there's too much stuff out there already, and I suspect the answer to that might be yes.

-Al

[Al C.risafulli]

Matt, my main concern is not that people use the tool incorrectly, it's that the tool itself, for the most part, tells you nothing about the card in question and simultaneously raises all sorts of privacy issues.

-Al

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

Matt, my main concern is not that people use the tool incorrectly, it's that the tool itself, for the most part, tells you nothing about the card in question and simultaneously raises all sorts of privacy issues.

-Al

I hear you - the tool does have some value, but it is minimal with the possibility of copied flips and cracked slabs.

[DavidW]

I would like to see an image of the card along with the cert number. That would eliminate substituting a fraud card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by DavidW

I would like to see an image of the card along with the cert number. That would eliminate substituting a fraud card.

I would like to see an image of the submitter.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would like to see an image of the submitter.

One of their large volume submitters: