Rare Dauvray Cup medal for New York

[insidethewrapper]

Paul: Here's a drawing of the Dauvary Cup from the Detroit Free Press on Sat June 18,1887 ( hope it shows up well on attachment).

[orator1]

Thanks for the trophy picture.
I just learned that Hunt Auctions offered a few Detroit Dauvray medals a few years back, but no New York medals.

[autograf]

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[jthorn]

Attached is a depiction of the other side of the long-lost Dauvray Cup, from the The Atchison Daily Globe of June 9, 1887. Note that the silversmith, probably Gorham (so the design would be researchable!) elected to depict a scene from the Polo Grounds.


john thorn

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Paul: Here's a drawing of the Dauvary Cup from the Detroit Free Press on Sat June 18,1887 ( hope it shows up well on attachment).

[Rich Klein]

For those not familiar with him; John is amongst the leading historians/writers of baseball history!

Welcome to the boards John and please chime in with those historical facts and notes whenever appropos!

Regards
Rich Klein

[jthorn]

Thanks for the kind greeting, Rich. For those who might wonder what became of the Dauvray Cup (for years the fate of the Temple Cup was unknown too, but it was located in the Temple family and then acquired by the Hall of Fame), see the attached note from the Morning Oregonian (Portland, OR) Monday, October 09, 1893. Some baseball version of Indiana Jones might pick up the scent.

john thorn

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

For those not familiar with him; John is amongst the leading historians/writers of baseball history!

Welcome to the boards John and please chime in with those historical facts and notes whenever appropos!

Regards
Rich Klein

[insidethewrapper]

John: Is this the last time the Dauvray Cup was mentioned (1893)? Also please explain the article to me. It states Boston won three times. What are the three times it is referring to ? I think the Cup was first given out in 1887 to the Wolverines.

[orator1]

insidethewrapper - I believe the Cup was to be permanently given to the team that won 3 championships in a row. I assume that means Boston won in 1891, 1892, and 1893 to take the Cup. NY won in 1888 and 1889. Since it wasn't three times they didn't win the Cup, but the players may have received individual medals.

[orator1]

In your research have you ever read about Dauvray medals being given to players other than 1887 Detroit players?

Detroit medals are found in the HOF and a few went up for auction, but medals given to subsequent winners NY and Boston have not been documented (to my knowledge).

Do you think NY or Boston Dauvray medals were given to the players, or did Mrs. Dauvray stop giving them after 1887?

[jthorn]

I have done a rather thorough scouring of the newspapers and the trail is cold after 1893. Sporting Life on November 4 provides a dispatch from Pittsburgh dated Oct 31: "Harry Staley is still here, a guest of Jimmy Galvin.... Staley brought the Dauvray Cup with him. It is on exhibition in a Sixth street show window." In the next week's issue of SL, Hank Gastright promised Cincinnati fans that "the famous trophy will be exhibited here before the call to duty is heard in the spring."

With that, a dead end.

john thorn

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

John: Is this the last time the Dauvray Cup was mentioned (1893)? Also please explain the article to me. It states Boston won three times. What are the three times it is referring to ? I think the Cup was first given out in 1887 to the Wolverines.

[insidethewrapper]

Thanks John. Hard to believe it hasn't shown up somewhere. Maybe it was melted down. Maybe it is sitting in someone's basement gathering dust . Someone needs to follow it down from the Boston owner's family etc of the 1890's . Great research project. Should be some survivor's since it is only a couple or more generations back. Maybe it was sold in the 1919 when Boston sold Ruth to New York cause they needed some money, as some suggested, to finance a broadway play.