Old Cardboard and Legendary

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I do. I got the catalog yesterday and my thoughts were along the lines of "obviously the consignors aren't worried about Legendary". This is a really impressive auction...especially for early Cubs memorabilia collectors.

It would appear that the great bulk if not all of the early Cub stuff is owned by Doug and/or Mastro employees. Of course that leaves open the question as to whether or not these consignors are worried about Legendary.

[alanu]

Did Mastro ever get all caught up with their consignors? Not trying to stir things up, just don't know the latest.

[tedzan]

For whatever it is worth....here are my 2 Drachmas regarding Legendary......

My booth at the Valley Forge Philly Show is adjacent to Legendary's booth. I have known Ron Oser since 1981.
I have known Mark Theotikis since the late '80s. These 2 guys are fine people. After all is said and done, over
the years in this hobby, it's the human element that matters more than any piece (or collection) of cardboard.

I was really impressed back in March with Legendary's tremendous T205/T206 DRUM find (51 cards). As I star-
ted setting up at the Sept. Philly Show, Ron Oser called over to me to check-out their latest find.

I replied...."Ah, come on Ron, you can't top your DRUM find ?"

Ron responded...."You want to bet on it, Ted ?"

I suspended my set-up and looked over Legendary's table....and, I was blown away when I saw their T208 set.
As a grown-up, I have been in this hobby since the 1970's and I have never seen a complete 18-card Cullivan's
Fireside set.

How about it guys, let's give Legendary a chance. Certainly, their latest Auction material looks pretty darn good.


TED Z

[calvindog]

Ted, I've got three trials coming up in the next 8 months; the question is how do I get you on all of them.

[bijoem]

It is a pretty impressive auction. Lots of cool stuff.


Although I could be mistaken -
I believe the people I know who consigned to Mastro eventually did get paid.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by calvindog

It would appear that the great bulk if not all of the early Cub stuff is owned by Doug and/or Mastro employees. Of course that leaves open the question as to whether or not these consignors are worried about Legendary.

I figured the Cubs stuff was probably from one collector, but what makes it "appear" to be all from Mastro employees?

[Matt]

There is a disclosure on page 7 of the Mastro-owned lots - too many to type in here.

Lots 590-685 are ALL Mastro owned.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Matt

There is a disclosure on page 7 of the Mastro-owned lots - too many to type in here.

Lots 590-685 are ALL Mastro owned.

Allegedly...for all we know...

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Matt

There is a disclosure on page 7 of the Mastro-owned lots - too many to type in here.

Lots 590-685 are ALL Mastro owned.

Heh. Who reads the fine print?

[calvindog]

Is it true that Bill Goodwin is taking an internship at Legendary?

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Is it true that Bill Goodwin is taking an internship at Legendary?

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[tedzan]

Per your request........
" Ted, I've got three trials coming up in the next 8 months; the question is how do I get you on all of them. "

......it will cost you, buddy. Travel expenses from Pennsy to NYC and a Hal Chase of my choice for each day.

Damn, I'd be proud to be in your courtroom. However, if I'm as effective in influencing your case(s) as you are
alluding to here....then you are going to have to up the ante....to a Cobb each day. .


T-Rex TED

[calvindog]

I don't have the catalog in front of me but I recall that the list of items owned by Mastro insiders included most if not all of the early Cub stuff.

Edited to add: Matt nailed it.

[Leon]

One of their principals has been a Cubs collector for a long time...

Only time will tell how Legendary will do. All 3 executives have a lot of experience and a lot of networking in the hobby....

[barrysloate]

Doug has been a big Cubs collector for a long time so I don't think I am revealing any big secret here.

It is a good auction but I am surprised at how low the T208's are. Remember a common sold in the live July auction for $20,400. Most of them are currently $500 or less as of today. Sure they will have a lot of activity the last night, but the 20K price was clearly an aberration.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

It is a good auction but I am surprised at how low the T208's are. Remember a common sold in the live July auction for $20,400. Most of them are currently $500 or less as of today. Sure they will have a lot of activity the last night, but the 20K price was clearly an aberration.

I'm not sure it was an aberration; it seems to me that it may just be reflective of the supply/demand at the time vs now. If they had listed only 1 now, it might get close to those heights as well. Or, it might have been an aberration...

[barrysloate]

No doubt the supply has drastically changed the perception. The one in July was the first one offered in about five years. Now between Legendary and REA we have 33 on the block. And we will almost certainly never see this kind of supply again.

[e107collector]

What is the link to the Old Cardboard auction? I was on the Old Cardboard site, and can't seem to find a link to their auction?

Thanks,
Tony

[sox1903wschamp]

Is there an auction house called "old cardboard"? I guess I am confused. Maybe it is a reference to the "old cardboard" in the Legendary auction?

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by sox1903wschamp

Is there an auction house called "old cardboard"? I guess I am confused. Maybe it is a reference to the "old cardboard" in the Legendary auction?

Points #1 and #2 are NOT connected.

Old Cardboard is a magazine, and judging by Rich's post, I'd guess he got his in the mail today.

Legendary is the auction house.