The Truly "Tough" cards

[onlychild]

Ted, that particular Doyle card should give every collector a reason to always buy the card and not the grade.

It's also a reason why every collector who is serious and collects high-end cards should learn how to meticulously inspect and authenticate on their own before making a significant purchase.

Really was an amazing catch by Lifson.
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Kevin Saucier

[tedzan]

Until recently, Russell's Cobb was not even known by many. Check me on this, the original find of these Cobb's
from the Atlanta area were six. Subsequently, the same source produced another six. That accounts for 12.

Adding Russell's gives us 13. And, I thought a 14th card (in very poor condition) surfaced. Anyhow, my memory
on this last one is sort of fuzzy. So, perhaps there are only 13 red Cobb's with Ty Cobb backs.

Best regards,

TED Z

[E93]

Hi Ted,
Thanks for that. I think our difference is in the number that Rob Lifson found in 1997. There were five in his auction, not six. So unless there was another that sold privately from the find, the number should be 13. Thanks for the clarification.
Jim

[Wesley]

I just reread Rob's description from his 2008 auction. According to Rob, there were five in the 1997 Georgia find, and "approximately twelve" total.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2008/234.html

[tedzan]

Joe P and Kevin S

Your observations are correct. The scan I posted (in post #11) is that of a (Graded) fake Joe Doyle error card.
I intentionally posted this card......to see how long it would take for some one here to identify that it is a fake.
As, the tendency on this Net is to assume that every card displayed in a professionally graded plastic is legit.

And, no Joe....that card is not one of the 7 authentic T206 Doyle error cards.



....................................FAKE.......... .................................................. ............REAL




Best regards, guys


TED Z

[barrysloate]

Patrick- I noticed you corrected the spelling of "truly." Well done!

[ullmandds]

i second the spelling correction...kudos!!!!

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Joe P and Kevin S

Your observations are correct. The scan I posted (in post #11) is that of a (Graded) fake Joe Doyle error card.
I intentionally posted this card......to see how long it would take for some one here to identify that it is a fake.
As, the tendency on this Net is to assume that every card displayed in a professionally graded plastic is legit.

And, no Joe....that card is not one of the 7 authentic T206 Doyle error cards.



....................................FAKE.......... .................................................. ............REAL




Best regards, guys


TED Z

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Would you have a better scan of the Doyle you call real?

As it is ... It does not look Koscher.

Thank you.
Joe

[tedzan]

JOE

I do not have this card, all I have is this "poor man's" version of the T206 Doyle error card.......

PRINTER's MARK (remnant of "N" in Nat'l)
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The scan on the right is a xerox copy of a REAL Joe Doyle error card. It is the only scan I have
for an A-B comparison.

You are one of only 7 collectors that are fortunate enough to have this extremely rare Tobacco
card. It behooves you to show us a nice large scan of it.


Regards,

TED Z

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by onlychild

Ted, that particular Doyle card should give every collector a reason to always buy the card and not the grade.

It's also a reason why every collector who is serious and collects high-end cards should learn how to meticulously inspect and authenticate on their own before making a significant purchase.

Really was an amazing catch by Lifson.
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Kevin Saucier

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Kevin are you saying that the above Doyle is a fake?
If so ... you're right.

Hopefully it's not included as one of Ted's guesstimates.