Ebay Fraud

[marvjung]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

That said, it's been nearly 10 years since I've worked there so I'm sure some things have changed, but I still talk to some of the guys and I don't think it's changed THAT much since I was there.

I'm inclined to agree.

I worked for UPS as well as a college student and they allowed only 4 to 5 hour shifts. After my first day, I understood why; I worked as a truck loader and I would take all the boxes off the conveyor belts and pack them into the trucks. We were trained to get the boxes in, as many as possible, into the trucks - whether we punched, kicked, forced the boxes into the container. Imagine Tetris, but you're allowed to use brute force, even when the pieces don't quite fit.

I agree completely that this is a more subtle scam based upon taking money from the shipping company itself. If the package had a very slight 4 or 5 inch slit in it, upon packing into a truck, using the methodolgy that I was trained in to pack a truck, that 4 or 5 inch slit could, and would have, easily expanded wide enough to make it look as if something fell out after a few poundings.

[wilkcards]

Wow, I just saw that complete auction and was thinking what a great deal that was for the Mantle, and Mathews. Hard to believe he would have even sold the cards for that price when they surely would go for more at auction.
Good luck on the refund!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Does UPS keep a record of the exact weight of a package? If so it would be easy to prove there were no slabs in it at the time it was dispatched.

[smtjoy]

Looks like a total scam.



In order to send a package USPS Registered it must be fully enclosed with Gum Tape. I have had to retape a couple of my boxes way back when I was first using this service. So I dont see any way anyone could have used this scam with registered mail.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by marvjung

I'm inclined to agree.

I worked for UPS as well as a college student and they allowed only 4 to 5 hour shifts. After my first day, I understood why; I worked as a truck loader and I would take all the boxes off the conveyor belts and pack them into the trucks. We were trained to get the boxes in, as many as possible, into the trucks - whether we punched, kicked, forced the boxes into the container. Imagine Tetris, but you're allowed to use brute force, even when the pieces don't quite fit.

I agree completely that this is a more subtle scam based upon taking money from the shipping company itself. If the package had a very slight 4 or 5 inch slit in it, upon packing into a truck, using the methodolgy that I was trained in to pack a truck, that 4 or 5 inch slit could, and would have, easily expanded wide enough to make it look as if something fell out after a few poundings.

Those were the days huh. I worked in that warehouse for 5 years. Definitely a young mans game but where else could you go to college and work part time for $12-15 bucks an hour in the late 80's. Those trucks were brutal BTW. I got out of those and up at a Pick-off spot in the rafters as soon as I possibly could. Still a hard job but not quite as backbreaking.

I remember they also had a program, if they recruited you to the management team as a part-time supervisor they would also pay for your college education. Pretty sweet if you were ambitious and didn't mind being a whipping boy for the full-time management.

I'm starting to wonder if the guy under-insured the package on purpose, because normally packages of that type of value get handed directly to a clerk by the driver as soon as he gets back to the building. The package is then looked over and re-taped or even re-packaged into an additional box if it looks weak.

I wonder if he insured it for under 5K to get it on the trucks un-noticed. He would have to have some knowledge of how UPS worked to decide on that method but it's not out of the realm of possibility.