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Old 11-03-2009, 10:17 AM
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Default T201 Grant / Cobb Comparison

This photo shows the entire Grant & Cobb cards, side by side. It is a little easier to see that the entire borders are consistent.

The last photo shows a Cobb card showing that it also was printed adjacent to another Cobb card.

Thanks to Matt, Jay and everyone for all of your help with this.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:36 AM
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That I think it is fanastic that Zach Wheat is alive and posting in our Forum! How cool is that?
But very unfortunate that people tie him up in meetings. How awkward and inappropriate! And no way to treat a HOFer!


In all seriousnessness...ness, thanks for sharing all the info and thoughts on this set. It is an interesting one.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:33 AM
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Here is a miscut Cobb / Crawford. It is obviously an edge card with the miscut occurring from the left side...





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Old 11-03-2009, 11:36 AM
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What factory was this printed at? Thanks.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:38 AM
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What factory was this printed at? Thanks.
Factory No. 30 District 2...
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:09 PM
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Zach,

I have the Mathewson/Bridwell and the Evers/Chance and both have the Factory 649 1st District back. They are both in PSA slabs, which, unfortunately are preventing me from getting a clear enough scan to post.

Thank you for a well written article.

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Edited to add that here is a Mathewson/Bridwell on ebay with the 649 back:
http://cgi.ebay.com/T201-MECCA-DOUBL...#ht_2349wt_732
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:17 PM
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Crawford/Cobb were also printed next to Stovall and Turner (card no longer mine):
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:37 AM
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Nice work. The following website has pictures of all the cards in the set:
http://www.vintagecardtraders.org/vi...t201/t201.html

The Mathewson and Chance cards pictured here both appear to have Factory 649 backs. Hope that helps somewhat.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:23 PM
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I've been collecting these miscuts as well....have about 5 so far. Here is another angle of the Crawford/Cobb. The back side has Cobb's back side.

Beckett will grade the card and label all the player names but I think it needs to either be a certain percentage miscut or the players identity shown. Nice challenge to collect and I really like Beckett's approach to labeling them.




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Edited - Here is your card Todd! Thanks again it's one of my favorites.

Awesome job Zack!

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Old 11-03-2009, 10:26 PM
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I don't want to offtrack the thread, as Mike has done a great job with his novel research on this undercollected set.
Kevin - quick question - does Beckett not take centering into account in their grading scale? A badly OC card can still grade a 7?
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:39 PM
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Matt,

They don't take the centering into consideration on the grade when the miscut is so bad it makes it somewhat of an error. They have a strict criteria.

From what I understand if no players where shown on the miscut it would have dropped the grade considerably. It was a great decision by Mark Anderson at Beckett...this card is what started it all!

I have a Yzerman rookie card that is 50% miscut but graded a 7. Had the other player not shown and the miscut was far less it would have graded a 2.

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Old 11-04-2009, 07:19 AM
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Default 4 Player Miscut

Does on Net 54 anyone own or save a scan of the 4 player miscut that sold on eBay 2-3 years ago? If I remember correctly, the card was almost perfectly miscut right to left and top to bottom with 4 players showing on the front. I think two of the players were Grant & Cobb. This would have to be the grand daddy of miscuts, but I doubt it would grade out at Beckett. Thanks.
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